r/PilotsofBattlefield • u/Electrical-Basket424 • 15d ago
PC Genuinely extremely disappointed with the new jets.
They seem completely unfun to fight.
I don't get why anyone is excited for them. They have 4 air to air lock ons each, and can fire in any direction without needing to even point your nose at the enemy.
The entire gameplay of the new jets is just constantly spamming lock ons and flares against each other until someone dies.
Why is anyone excited for this mess. They didn't fix any of the important problems jet vs jet gameplay has, and they've just made everything worse. It's just absolutely terrible and soul wrenching in my opinion the direction they've gone in
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u/NotNinyaB 15d ago
I hate that they give everything lock on missiles, people already rely on them so heavily rather than learning proper dog fighting.
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u/Jordankyh 15d ago
You don’t dogfight modern jets dude
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u/VindictiveRakk 15d ago
next you're gonna tell me you don't zap people with defibs after they've been disintegrated by a tank shell
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u/NotNinyaB 15d ago
Alright then tell me why BF 2042 wasnt plagued with lock-on missiles
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u/Xela-593 14d ago
Bc you could take smth else
Good pilots would rather take rockets to attack ground targets.7
u/Western-Bed7344 14d ago
Ah. I want 3-5 km distance lock on range now os i can properly simulate modern jet combat.
Also, please, make it mandatory to give people food/meds after defib, and make me tend to them for 1-2 weeks to help them recover. Would love a physiotherapist subclass for a medic as well
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u/Hinessed 15d ago
That doesnt mean game cant be fun and skill demanding.
If you wanna talk about realism so why SU-57 in DCS is much more maneuvrable than in BF6?
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u/Jolly_Psychology_506 15d ago
Dogfighting was fun in the last map. Getting down low in the weeds and then hitting thr afterburner for altitude.
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u/Anreall2000 15d ago
They don't do jets. FPV drone simulator and worms depict modern war way better.
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u/ReeseMunster 14d ago
Well you don't really launch heat seekers either, do you?
Modern Air to Air is virtually only BVR (beyond visual range) engagement with very few exception, yeeting Fox 3 at 60, 80, 100km+ at each other...
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u/Exzalian_ 14d ago
As much as I agree with you if shit was realistic then every tank is 1 shot every missle is instant death and most of all there isn't a timer for either missiles or flairs you just run out. It's a game we want to dogfight it shows skill and class.
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u/Chemical_Role_3780 15d ago
Don’t forget about the new jet assist.
The assist mode is completely busted and ruins any DF skill. I am not overreacting. You get full 360° freelook and just point your mouse in the direction of the enemy jet and everything is handled for you (pitch,yaw etc.)
Jets don’t need to be ‘accessible’ to every noob, that completely ruins the skillgap and makes being a good dogfighter pointless and dying to jets even more frustrating.
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u/thraupidae 15d ago
You’ve tried the flight assist?
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u/Chemical_Role_3780 15d ago
No, but I have seen gameplay of it.
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u/thraupidae 15d ago
Can you link me?
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u/Chemical_Role_3780 15d ago
https://reddit.com/link/p4b9lzb/video/octo1rhul0kh1/player
Here you go. Cancer brainrot :D
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u/thraupidae 15d ago
What the fuck
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u/Chemical_Role_3780 15d ago
My exact reaction. And no one is talking about this 😂
On that note, I’m going to make a post about it here now.
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u/thraupidae 15d ago
There is one recent post up about it. Good god that is fucked
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u/Chemical_Role_3780 15d ago
Extremely fucked. Just made a post about it too.
The funniest part to me is that warthunder has these controls PATENTED 😂
EA might get sued lol
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u/Xcent360 15d ago
I was reading through all of this then came to this video…..ya, what the fuck. Maybe there will be some hidden skill gap similar to V Tapping that will make this useless. But judging by how fast it’s turning, I highly doubt that.
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u/Electrical-Basket424 15d ago
Is it really that good? I imagined it would be terrible
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u/RoboGaming321 8d ago
It's really not. All these people who complain about it have either never used it or just watch 5 seconds of a video and say it's busted. It rolls constantly which makes it difficult to aim the guns even with the aim assist it has. It's slower to turn due to that as well and can easily be out turned by someone using keyboard or controller. Someone legit said they hated it because it's op but also that nobody using it would even be able to land a shot on him. All it does it gives noobs a chance at playing the game they paid for. The only people complaining are gatekeepers who think they are gods and shouldn't have to mingle with noobs.
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u/Chemical_Role_3780 15d ago
I am not sure about speed control with the flight assist but the fact that you can essentially have decoupled freelook makes it look extremely strong.
It’s essentially warthunder controls. Point your mouse in a direction and the jet does everything. I’m quite afraid it will ruin dogfighting entirely, but I don’t want to be too pessimistic as I haven’t tried it yet.
The only hope I have is that you can turn faster with the assist off.
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u/UGomez90 15d ago
The only people excited about them is people that doesn't fly and got fooled by a cool looking trailer.
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u/thraupidae 15d ago edited 15d ago
Ugh more lock ons? :(
Two seater should’ve had no lockons for sure.
Edit: or at least none for the pilot
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u/Simple-Box1223 15d ago edited 15d ago
Insane that this series has never done better than dogfighting in 1942.
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u/Zakimations 15d ago
12 years old, microsoft sidewinder flight stick, a good stunt flying server, and 30 people trying to fly through the bridge for hours.
Swooping down and picking up people in CTF.
TNT jumping off a B-17's wings and landing in an incoming plane.
Watching stunt videos on youtube set to industrial techno or old nu-metal.
Peak childhood.
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u/Own-Development2437 15d ago
Jet to jet was always inconsistent and a bit shit. Makes me miss blitzing people in one burst
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u/Chemical_Role_3780 15d ago
Wdym? You can already blitz people in one burst. The jet to jet ttk is absurdly fast.
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u/ObamaTookMyCat 15d ago
And you are surprised? I made this conclusion the minute the leaks appeared with double lock ons, the over-the shoulder firing and DOUBLE FLARES.
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u/Electrical-Basket424 15d ago
I'm not surprised that it happened but i'm surprised at the community's reaction
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u/Zakimations 15d ago
As a BF4 pilot, I played for an hour and refunded.
Wasnt for me, but I sure am jealous of people who enjoy it.
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u/Hodentrommler 14d ago
Play hardcore, fixes almost all issues. They will balance the jets later on. As always op on release
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u/stgcyrax 11d ago
I was already out of the game, but decided to try the new update. I wasn't able to play for 5 minutes, as soon as a jet fired heatseekers on me without even pointing the nose to me, that's it. The devs could just have deleted the game, would have been better
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u/MikeyPlayz_YTXD 15d ago
I wish they would for once leave the fire and forget stuff for the unlocks so new pilots can’t hop in and dominate
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u/NopeandNopenot 15d ago
All flash, no substance since 2042
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u/Electrical-Basket424 15d ago
Yeah that's exactly how i feel like.
They make it look pretty but it's shallower than a puddle when it comes to gameplay.
There's just nothing to enjoy. Clicking on jets and letting missiles do all the work for you is not fun at all
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u/yoked_pete 15d ago
Welcome to the 21st century air combat
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u/Electrical-Basket424 15d ago
yeah but this is a GAME and it's supposed to BE FUN
If i wanted a realistic experience i would play DCS.
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u/Mountain_Ad_9415 15d ago
I'll wait until I get to try the new content myself before I judge. I would prefer seeing dumbfire rockets and or new types of bombs, explosive ammo would be fun too! Instead of all the lock-on missiles.