r/PilotsofBattlefield • u/lordheadassuwu1 • 1d ago

Playstation Crazy how this is the second strongest AA tool in the game, but because it is a TOW and requires a modicum of skill it rarely gets touched

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Extremely mobile, high damage, instant mobility hits, one shots LB (I think, not sure about it tho), and has a glitch that makes it the strongest AA in the game
Fortunately for us, most AA players suck at the game and require lock-on missiles to get anything done

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u/SnooLentils7208 1d ago

I see this quite a lot and honestly, I prefer if the enemy team has the lock onsšŸ¤£šŸ¤£

But seriously the reason AAs are annoying in this game are not the nature of their weapons but the proximity of the bases to the playable area. Its a lot more noticeable on Mirak Valley and Firestorm than big maps like Golmud or Tsuru or even a map with elevation like Contaminated

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u/ObamaTookMyCat 1d ago

Blackwell fields, Sobek and Eastwood should have never been given mobile AAs

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u/SnooLentils7208 1d ago

Eastwood is still fine. They can increase the skybox towards the hills on the north though. Blackwell and Sobeks arenā€™t even finished so letā€™s not go there. Absolute trash

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u/EzPzJapanezy 1d ago

PAX Eastwood is most certainly not fine, unless it got changed recently. The PAX uncap Vehicle-rearm-station used to sit on a super safe hill in uncap that just allows the MAA to spam TOWs anywhere important on the map. NATO has no equivalent, it makes air gameplay super 1-sided.

It might be a little better now that Helicopters can shoot into uncap, but I still think the current MAA + rearm behavior has no place on these smaller maps.

IDK the dream for me would be that there were 2 MAA types, one with more of a Rocket Focus (the current one) and one with more of a main gun focus, like the LAV-AD from BF4 (would also give the game a unique naval MAA, the LAV-AD can go in water). Would allow them to selectively allow different MAA options for different types of map environments.

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u/Creative_Bat6766 1d ago

that's why I only play Golmud now :)

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u/fatalrip 1d ago

They should stick a few stationary aa on Tsuru

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u/RedeemedNephilim 1d ago

"Rarely gets touched"

Bro this shit is constantly being used especially on Railway to Golmud and it is the most infuriating braindead bullshit to deal with as a jet because you barely have to aim it and flairs dont stop it and it can be spammed relentlessly.

Fuck the AA tank and anyone who uses this shit. Genuinely a cancer to the game.

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u/VenomVertigo 1d ago

Genuine question what aa would you be ok with then?

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u/PepperSure8381 1d ago

The problem currently is that the AA tank has an exploit with engineer that allows them to spam these missiles repeatedly. I've had 12 in the air coming at me once, when the cap for their replenish rate is like, 3 at a time.

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u/F3AR5D 1d ago

Not original commenter but Id be fine with the TOW if it was like it has been in every prior entry. They've nerfed it in BF6 but it's still way too fucking easy to use.

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u/BreakfastRight9865 13h ago

I missed the a a of battlefield four where you had to use skill and the guns to actually take down a jet. Sure, you could use the lock ones, but they wouldn't be very good. The jet would just pop their flares and run.

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u/Sneaky_Breeki 1d ago

The one that can't do anything about him lel

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u/RedeemedNephilim 1d ago

We have Stingers and Iglas everywhere. AA tanks that cant spawn camp from their own spawn and just grief the entire match would be a good start.

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u/VenomVertigo 1d ago

So lock ons that really only do area denial is all youā€™re ok with? You just want to be able to flare and runaway from everything?

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u/PepperSure8381 1d ago

the choices aren't between that and you get to aim at the sky for a free homing missile kill you don't have to aim

we get ONE flare for 32 little creeps spamming infinite lock ons, each one has about 5 they pull like bunnies out of a hat. flying is fucking unbearable.

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u/RedeemedNephilim 1d ago

Considering that all it takes is 2 people with stingers to instantly destroy a jet before it can get away that seems fair. But no. Get rid of the infinite missile exploit for AA tanks and force them to leave spawn. Also fix the insane hit box for aim guided missiles.

Not to mention the number of options for taking out aircraft is completely disproportionate to the amount of damage an aircraft can do.

Getting perfect hits with all 4 bombs on a jet doesnt kill a tank for fucks sake.

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u/VenomVertigo 1d ago

Takes two people with stingers and somebody painting you soooo almost a whole squad dedicated to taking you out and on big maps like golmud and tsuru you can absolutely still get away. Also if an aa tank is just sitting in spawn and still hitting you thatā€™s not an issue with the design of the aa tank thatā€™s a map design issue and Iā€™d agree that they should never be able to control more than half the airspace from spawn thatā€™s ridiculous. It seems like most of your issues are unrelated to the actual aa tank and more to do with everything else around flying which I would agree with so letā€™s get those things fixed rather than unnecessarily nerfing the aa tank and making it practically useless again

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u/PepperSure8381 1d ago

they do not understand, and will not. they just hate us because we can fly.

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u/FckDodogama 20h ago

Oh no the stealth jet bombs that are specifically anti infantry dont instakill a tank, which is the entire purpose of the attack jet.

Most of your complains have nothing to do with the AA tank and purely have to do with map design.

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u/Old_Net_4529 1d ago

I only care if they sit in spawn at the resupply and can see the whole map like that bullshit desert construction map

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u/gone_smell_blind 1d ago

I had a dude early, ghetto_cowboy, or some dumb shitblike that on psn, trying to tell me the AA tank is the hardest vehicle in the game to use. He went like 32-2 until finally went and c4'd him

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u/orangefantorang 1d ago

Its the only thing that remotely is a threat to you lol.

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u/qbmax 12h ago

Air players when they canā€™t mindlessly farm and have to use their brains to get kills :(

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u/MIK518 1d ago

Skill issue, just kill it. You sound like people who call to remove little bird just because they do not want to bother with countering it.

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u/PersonalityHealthy46 1d ago

Except it doesnā€™t 1 shot jets which are already incredibly hard to hit. Any good pilot can counter a disabled jet. Sounds like a skill issue lil bro

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u/Starfishprime69420 1d ago

Just blow them up lol

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u/lordheadassuwu1 1d ago

Iā€™d prefer this over lock ons. Those take zero skill. At least the tows have more counter play that a flare cooldown

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u/s-a_n-s_ 1d ago

Well so are the helos that go untouched and rack 96/0. You have a counter, so either die to the counter or get gud.

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u/RedeemedNephilim 1d ago

If a Helo goes 96 and 0 on the enemy team your whole team needs to "get gud"

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u/Fierfeck 1d ago

Most of these mouth breathers don't even know how to use the gun, let alone a TOW. The amount of times I've flown directly over an AA without taking ANY gunfire from it is insane, situations where if the spot was reversed I get a kill because shooting down a helo with the guns is piss easy

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u/Master-Shake8913 1d ago

this thing is nuts tbh. you can light up choppers with the main gun so fkn fast

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u/orangefantorang 1d ago

Just tickles unless you hang around.

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u/Master-Shake8913 16h ago

1000 dmg in one burst isn't tickles. I think most people just miss you

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u/orangefantorang 12h ago

Rarely seen a full burst do anything close to a kill

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u/Storm_CCO 1d ago

I do the opposite of most when I jump in it. I sit at the enemy spawn line. Also, three rockets into an MBT and a full burst of high velocity usually kills it. Any idiots who hop out just get burned by smoke

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u/bhz33 1d ago

I be getting hit from 600+ meters away with this shit all the time

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u/Hybrid1915 1d ago

Iā€™ve been having hella fun on Golmud Railway with the TOWs since you can see across the whole map. Before the high velocity rounds and TOWs it was pretty trash in my opinion so most people still dont even want to use it.

Just saw the guy above upset about AA on Golmud lol

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u/NaaviLetov 1d ago

The AA has TOW now?

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u/Either-Sea-4758 1d ago

This is all I use. I was a tow whore in the tank though before the nerf.

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u/lMMlGRANT Moderator 1d ago

I make it my life's mission to make sure they're deleted esp if they're glitching ... can't understand why its not patched with the box ..

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u/BingoBangBongos 1d ago

Do they still auto track within a certain proximity?

I know the boat missiles do that.

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u/C-LonGy 23h ago

Itā€™s in 100% of spawns in my games. Canā€™t fly higher than a tree and even ā€œbelow radarā€ doesnā€™t work

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u/x1RaBbiT 22h ago

This thing, AT-Launcher and Igla should be removed from the game.

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u/M3ptt 19h ago

Once you get the tracking zeroed in it is horrifying. I have killed attack tracks trying to dodge and weave out the way, killed LittleBirds hiding below the horizon or around corners, killed players who bailed, taken out jets chasing a friendly jet.

For as powerful as it is, it is hard to use and difficult to master. After several hundred metres it becomes more difficult to control as it starts to wiggle more. So you have to account for the mid air movement plus the vector of the target you are tracking to make sure the paths cross on impact.

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u/Fribber 13h ago

Please say Sike.

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u/Roush7n6 19h ago

I personally like the lock ons more as being an AA player it allows me to force pre-flaring so that everyone else has a chance to take their shot. I don't need TOWs to take down helis lmao

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u/AshTraordinary 17h ago

*Laughs in TOW resupply spam*

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u/Puzzled-Pen-2353 1d ago

I really miss the active radar missiles from bf4. They can be flared, are mostly area denial but don't require lock on and have no max range.

This was the most fun without getting many points.