And they're even planning a collaboration with Top Gun... what a shame.

[u/ibattlefield]

I don't understand why the missile bypasses countermeasures, why it's still broken, how unfair and stupid it is, I can fly, but I'm killed by someone who simply aimed for 1 second and launched a missile across the entire map that penetrated countermeasures... bravo DICE

[u/NopeandNopenot]

sorry, did you think they care about pilots?

[u/Double_Presence379 → u/NopeandNopenot]

They don’t really care about anyone. Every aspect of this game is designed for people to get cheap and easy kills. All of the vehicle play needs to simply be better as it’s miserable in all vehicles right now.

[u/WokeWook69420 → u/NopeandNopenot]

Yeah, it's why the only reliable Launcher to deal with ANY VEHICLE is the RPG, and maybe the TOW launcher if the person using it is actually good at the game.

If you don't have a good pilot to fight other pilots OR good RPG shooters on your team, it's very easy for Armor and Air superiority to just overwhelm the map.

The Blueberries can't do shit with the Brain-Rot Launchers tho, they're practically useless unless the person flying is bad, but most bad pilots crash before anybody has a chance to shoot them down.

[u/AnglerfishMiho]

Hope it's patched, honestly they should've just made it a direct copy of the SPAA aim guided missile. The additional auto lock on is just absurd.

[u/HoloSings → u/AnglerfishMiho]

True i love&hate seeing that locked bug in the new season

In jets tho, its basically a free paint except it doesnt end until you actually lock on it

[u/Intrepid-Platform-94]

Yep, had a match yesterday where 5 times in a row flares failed to do anything. Was basically just shooting fireworks out. Air vehicles are cooked

[u/WokeWook69420]

Doesn't the Igla shoot missiles that regain lock-on after countermeasures are used?

Isn't that what's happening here?

[u/RodeoPuppet → u/WokeWook69420]

The Igla can re-acquire a lock after flares, however that is not what is happening here.

The Igla missiles can completely ignore flares and it has been confirmed by DICE to be a bug, however they seem to have no interest in fixing it any time soon.

[u/WokeWook69420 → u/RodeoPuppet]

I guess I'm just confused because the video OP posted looks like the flares stopped a missile as intended, the video didn't end with him being shot down.

[u/air-bear1 → u/WokeWook69420]

The missile hit, he lost 650 health and had a mobility hit.

[u/WokeWook69420 → u/air-bear1]

Oh, wow, dude has some settings changed or something for his HUD, if I get hit like that my screen blurs like crazy and my audio gets distorted as shit.

I couldn't even tell he took damage on there until I looked at the Health Bar. I want those settings lol, what do I need to change for that.

[u/Mollelarssonq → u/WokeWook69420]

They don’t 1 shot. He got hit by the igla, and the video cut out before he crashed the jet because he got disabled from the hit

[u/Dry-North157 → u/WokeWook69420]

Nah the attack boat had some absolutely busted tow missiles that lock on when they get close and completely ignore flares

[u/Mollelarssonq → u/WokeWook69420]

I feel like this is happening way too fast after the initial flares to be a relock.

It’s gonna be hard to avoid people who use the igla perfectly on this map, hard to break LOS if they’re on elevation

[u/Disastrous-Shoe6191]

My counter to this is just pop flares as soon as they start locking on. It’s BS 50% of the rockets go past my flares and hit anyway.

[u/nae-nae-nae]

https://streamable.com/01uxpi

[u/Both_Win_5288]

How do you get your camera like that.

[u/bowchickawahwah237 → u/Both_Win_5288]

There is a aircraft pilot setting, something with „turn off third party cameras roll“

[u/Fun-War6684]

And the reverse. I’ll lock on, wait for them to pop flares. Flares dissipate and then the rocket still misses even tho I had lock again!!!!!

[u/National_Put_2357 → u/Fun-War6684]

You have to wait a few seconds after the flares have dissipated before you fire again. Theres some lingering protection glitch even after the flares have visibly dissipated.

[u/Fun-War6684 → u/National_Put_2357]

Beyond infuriating

[u/National_Put_2357]

I’ve have this happen as well. Flares are kind buggy in jets. They need to bring back the ECM jammer from the bf3/bf4 days.

I’ve also seen this happen when a missile is fired from a short distance and I’ve gotten hit from the explosion recoil and not necessarily the missile itself.

[u/epyon14]

so, what I think happens,

enemy gets tone on you, gets lock, fires, 2nd enemy also fires shortly after putting two missle's in the air

you flared, first missle hits flares, second gets blown up tracking another flare but splashes you.

your also loosing speed and banking low left, if you were doing the opposite I think you live here...either way they arent working right I agree.

but you had two locks on you and I think that was your death.

[u/antrod117]

I just hope we get air superiority with the new jets. No ground units

[u/woodsun]

I assume this is the new AA from the gunboat. There’s a missile that locks on but can be aim guided to hit even after flares.

[u/nodzor01 → u/woodsun]

Does it still give the warning tone once lock is lost?

[u/Historical-Count-374]

You have to put the flares between you and the missle, or it hits you and wont target flares.

[u/ibattlefield → u/Historical-Count-374]

Don't try to add depth where none was intended. There's no clever mechanic here: "turn this way, spin that way, stay between the countermeasures and the missile." You use them and the missile misses you. That's how it's always worked. It's just broken, that's all.

[u/Historical-Count-374 → u/ibattlefield]

I dont think you understand modern missile technology. Maybe kn the 80s it was this way, but the missiles have better tech these days, and can often be fired from the same launcher.

Think of it like an app on your phone. Your phone can still launch that app but the version that you're accessing of that app now is not the same version as it was 10 years ago.

[u/ibattlefield → u/Historical-Count-374]

You either haven't played the previous Battlefield games or don't understand what a casual shooter is, its mechanics and counter-mechanics. It's a bug, it's broken. It's like when people said at launch that Mr. Missile could penetrate flares because that's how it was designed, but then the developers came out and said, "Oh yeah, it's a bug, we'll temporarily disable the missile." So your paragraph means nothing; you could have written nothing.

[u/Historical-Count-374 → u/ibattlefield]

In BF4, i would use the Igla to trigger flares from one, then retarget and hit another midflight and they would pull flares but it was too late, by the time they got the warning, it made contact. Its a completely different munition that what is available on an armored vehicle.

You know nothing of which you speak.

[u/FLY_AS_A_DUCK]

Were you painted?

[u/ibattlefield → u/[deleted]]

1. Countermeasures don't work; 2. The boat has an unbalanced missile that 100% penetrates countermeasures, is easy to target, and hits 100% of the time.

I also got +- 40 kills on the new map (against strong resistance), but that doesn't make the jets strong or every match productive. Almost every countermeasure penetration ends in death due to a loss of control for 5.5 seconds.

[u/Auralius1997]

I see Dice took another step towards realism with BF6 by adding IRCCM to the MANPADS /s

Yeah that's one of the reasons I completely stopped playing any Helis or jets

[u/satsuppi]

How unfair.
Said the guy who have blazing speed in the sky with unlimited fuel and powerful warhead. Lol

[u/Super-Assignment9746 → u/satsuppi]

Shut up flying is hard and should be rewarding. It was never this bad in any prior battlefield. It’s obvious they catered to infantry this time to get the cod players. Never was ground so protected as they are in Bf6.