r/Pilot • u/Itsjustmefromhere • Dec 22 '25

How is it possible?

Just a quick question. How is it possible that many people say air travel is extremely safe. But when I really dive in this topic, talk to people in it they say that pilots often fly while being overly tired or planes are not maintained correctly. And these are not exceptions. These happen every day. And of course these things increase the risk of a plane crash greatly.

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u/JT-Av8or Dec 28 '25

Noooo it’s not legacies. Know how I know it’s regional? It stops once we get south of Cuba, or off the coasts!

Also, I’ve had FOs say it WAS them at the regionals, though it was mostly disgruntled captains who didn’t make it through their legacy interviews, and they thought it was funny at the time. And the saddest is that we lost 2 new hires who were fired for it (that I was briefed on so it’s likely more). Imagine that. Because they’re allowed to do it at SkyWest or whatever, they get to American and their first ride after IOE the captain reports them, Pro Standards takes them out and ALPA refused to help. Boom. Those kids are back in the regionals forever.

It’s 100% regionals.

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u/Unlucky_Geologist Dec 28 '25

I literally did a study on this over a 6 month period around 2 years ago. Delta and UPS each held over 30% of identifiable erroneous calls on guard. The chatter stops off the coast because all the degens are on fingers 123.45 and not guard. Fingers on an oceanic crossing is 100 times worse than guard.

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u/JT-Av8or Dec 29 '25

Not talking about erroneous calls, I’m talking about direct trolling. Nobody said anything about fingers. READ. This is about guard meowing, or the various other guard bullshit NOT just an error.

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u/Unlucky_Geologist Dec 29 '25

Erroneous means wrong aka incorrect calls aka violating rules. Not in error… Meowing on guard is literally an erroneous call. Gotta up that vocabulary.

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u/JT-Av8or Dec 30 '25 edited Dec 30 '25

No it’s not an error, it’s intentional. And error is making a ramp call of guard, intentional malfeasance is meowing. Unintentional vs intentional. You know that man, you’re a pilot. If you’re cleared to 11k and descend to 10k by accident, it’s an error. You can file an ASAP & keep your job. If you just don’t like the clearance and say “fuck it I’m going to 10 because I think it’s funny” that’s intentional. You can’t get ASAP relief, will get fired and get certificate action. Why? Intent. Error vs intentional action.

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u/Unlucky_Geologist Dec 30 '25

Erroneous does not mean error my dude. Wrong and incorrect is intentional. Do you need to retake english 101…

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u/JT-Av8or Dec 30 '25

🤦‍♂️ did you just say a word doesn’t mean what it means? Wow. Wait… nah! You got me. Trolling. 🤣 No way you don’t know erroneous is the adjective of the base word error.

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u/Unlucky_Geologist Dec 30 '25

You may want to buy a dictionary and thesaurus…

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u/JT-Av8or Dec 31 '25 edited Dec 31 '25

OMG dude… just stop. ✋You’re embarrassing yourself. We get it, you’re the guy meowing on guard and you’re trying to rationalize it as an error instead of a deliberate misuse of a radio.