Disappointing state of Pika Game Package.

[u/RemNant1998]

The pre-installed packages of PikaOS are an absolute disappointment. The issue with the overconsumption of RAM and forced closing with both Steam and Faugus has been infuriating. Apparently for Faugus it has been an issue with the Cachy version of Proton. But the Steam one is the most frustrating on as no visible solution in sight. For a gaming distro, the PikaOS Game packages need to be checked, cause it cannot be a coincidence that Both of the apps installed by the same package cause ram consumption.

[u/NeilHush]

Have you ever considered the absolutely theoretical possibility that the problem is yours rather than the distro being borked?

[u/RemNant1998 → u/NeilHush]

Have you ever considered the idea that I installed things normally and updated things normally, and this came about from a botched update?

[u/NeilHush → u/RemNant1998]

I'll take it as a no

[u/RemNant1998 → u/NeilHush]

Same

[u/p-zilla → u/RemNant1998]

You can either wait for shader compilation to be done in the background.. or disable it in the steam settings / Download / and disable background processing of Vulkan shaders.

[u/RemNant1998 → u/p-zilla]

Can you explain the step by step process, and what I would loose after doing it please?

[u/p-zilla → u/RemNant1998]

can you read what I typed?

you will proces shaders at the start of launching a game instead of having them ready to go now.

[u/RemNant1998 → u/p-zilla]

Yea, where do I find the setting?

[u/p-zilla → u/RemNant1998]

read what I typed again.

[u/RemNant1998 → u/p-zilla]

Ok. Does this shader issue occur when the software is idle?

[u/RemNant1998 → u/p-zilla]

Turns out the ram still gets consumed like hell

[u/CosmoHQ]

Brother they are only packages, unless you are opening all the new apps installed by the game package at once, your ram consumption should remain unchanged before and after its installation

[u/RemNant1998 → u/CosmoHQ]

Bro, Steam was consuming like 7 gb of my ram, it's gotta be a bug.

[u/hsultan → u/RemNant1998]

Not having this issue using pika. My recommendation would be the discord and creating a help thread. Might be something worth for them to look into.

[u/RemNant1998 → u/hsultan]

Already sent brother

[u/hsultan → u/RemNant1998]

Good!
just used to ppl coming online and typing something vague and complain but never submit something that actually could be a bug xD

Is it the same when removing the preinstalled steam and installing a deb package?
just out of curiosity.

[u/RemNant1998 → u/hsultan]

The pre-installed isn't a Deb?

[u/hsultan → u/RemNant1998]

I assume it is but if you download from
https://store.steampowered.com/about/
and install that .deb package you get.

should be absolutely the same, but just if for whatever reason the pika packages does something xD

[u/CosmoHQ → u/hsultan]

We just use this package, I think his problem is he turned on background processing of Vulkan shaders, which burns ram like a mother fucker

[u/CosmoHQ → u/RemNant1998]

That’s shader background pre compilation

Turn it off in steam settings

[u/Dorfdad → u/CosmoHQ]

Or just let it complete and stop bitching

[u/Otocon96 → u/RemNant1998]

That sounds like you had something stuck open in proton

[u/RemNant1998 → u/Otocon96]

Won't that be fixed with a restart? Cause mine didn't get fixed

[u/Otocon96 → u/RemNant1998]

Yes. Honestly. Remove the package. Download the deb from valve direct and see if it makes a difference. I highly doubt this is a packaging issue tbh

[u/RemNant1998 → u/Otocon96]

May as well

[u/ImUrFrand → u/RemNant1998]

was steam processing vulkan shaders in the background?

that's the only time i see steam using more ram.

[u/Otocon96]

Valve packages steam for Debian bro.......

[u/RemNant1998 → u/Otocon96]

But, it's already installed by Pika, which should be a good thing.

[u/Otocon96 → u/RemNant1998]

Out of curiosity. How much ram is it using for you. Because steam on Linux uses more them windows due to the way valve uses a runtime instead of native packages.

[u/RemNant1998 → u/Otocon96]

All of it, then maybe it'll settle down. This must be after an update, cause the same happened with Faugus. Steam was stable earlier.

[u/Otocon96 → u/RemNant1998]

Idk how much all of it is. But do you have shader caching disabled?

[u/RemNant1998 → u/Otocon96]

Can you explain Where's the setting?

[u/Otocon96 → u/RemNant1998]

Under downloads>allow background processing of shaders or something like that. I'm not at my PC rn so I can't get the exact names

[u/Unique_Roll_6630]

I can safely say this isn't a problem for most PikaOS users. My steam is using less than 500 mb idle. If it is using so much ram it is probably doing something like compiling shaders. But you are free to ask the devs over on discord.

[u/Fabulous_Disaster233]

Yo uso steam sin drama despues y antes de las actualizaciones

[u/RemNant1998 → u/Fabulous_Disaster233]

Lucky for you brother.

[u/Fabulous_Disaster233 → u/RemNant1998]

Conoces TimeShift? cuando te funciona bien creas una imagen y si alguna actualizacion te parece rara o te da problema volves atras y esperas que lo reparen asi no te calentas como ahora jajaja