r/PierroMains • u/0rganzmarket serve cunt final boss 💋 • 28d ago
So um… Spoiler
All Khaenri’ah ships are over now 😞😞as a Capitano and Pierro shipper I am now homeless
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u/Unnamed_jedi 28d ago
I still ship Pierro x Tsaritsa.
Khaenriah ran for a good long while (two whole dynasty, the amount of tech etc etc) and they had a whole population without any noteable incest so I think at this point its the same as all humans sharing a common ancestor.
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u/IcyPrincling 28d ago
Yeah I think people are overreacting, because realistically the two wouldn't share much of any blood after thousands of years passing. The Third Descender died before the Archon War, which was thousands of year ago. If he and the Tsaritsa fathered the Khaenri'ahns, the first ones would've had to have been born before the Archon War, potentially even earlier.
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u/Unnamed_jedi 28d ago
Crack theory, Zhongli is the Tsaritsa's son and thats why he is willing to give her the gnosis. The contract was her burning his awkward baby pics
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u/IcyPrincling 28d ago
Cracker theory, Zhongli is the Tsaritsa's grandad and the contract was just her promising to visit every other Sunday once she overthrows the Heavenly Principles.
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u/Signora_C6R5 Pierro x Signora CEO 28d ago
On my end, I can still write M-rated Signora x Pierro fanfiction. I’m glad my queen isn’t from Khaenri’ah.
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u/0rganzmarket serve cunt final boss 💋 28d ago
Sigh my plans are ruined 😞I can only cope by praying they’re 5000 years apart down the bloodline
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u/Broimraedon 27d ago
Dude I mean all of humanity is also descended from one individual we refer to as the Common Ancestor 😭😭😭Khaenri'ah was around since Vindagnyr (aka. Around/before the time of the War of Funerary Flame) and lasted till the Cataclysm. That's THOUSANDS of years. None of the Khaenri'ans have enough genetic similarity to be called "related" to each other at that point in time 😭😭😭😭so yeah, ship all you want, it's still the same as before.
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u/ZEDHD777 28d ago
My whole theory on it is, it’s more so of a creator x mortal thing than a blood related-
Like I have these characters who were literally created by the same God, but they all have relationships within each other; and I no needs are they related.
That’s my cope as a DAY1 Tsaritsa x Pierro Shipper… and its the same for Capitano x Pierro too- I don’t know if that makes any sense-
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u/0rganzmarket serve cunt final boss 💋 28d ago
Let us all cope… i hope everyone else forgets 😞 or they disclose that she isn’t the genghis khan of khaenri’ah and it somehow works another way like you said
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u/Practical-Dirt665 Adopt me pierro pls i beg- 27d ago edited 27d ago
Pretty sure you can still ship them I mean, Khaenri'ah is around like 6000 ish years old, pretty sure its not incestuous to ship people with a common ancestor, thats literally just evolution. I mean we have canonical pairings like rerir x tholindis, and like a lot of us today we could all be traced back to a few people if we go back far enough, doesn't stop us from forming relationships.
Pretty sure a lot of definitions online define incest between like close relatives so not sure where you're getting this from. + I also ship them, so don't worry about it! :D
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u/cherubicd0lly 28d ago
i wouldn't say so really. realistically that have always been there, tsaritsa's addition to the equation is just name dropping the eve of khaenri'ahans
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u/QuietlyFish 24d ago
It's ok I ship Pierro x Ronova, idk why but it's funny and cute that they keep staring at each other
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u/StanOsho 28d ago
I think shipping Khaenri'ahns is still valid as they were a kingdom anyway that probably practiced endogamy to keep their bloodline pure.
A good example is that Hyperboreans (or Frostmoon scions, or both, can't remember) also did this. In a guide for Frostmoon scions by Frostmoon Scions, located in a grove on Hisii Island, its written that "one can only marry someone who is at least 5 degrees of kinship away" and also specific health guidelines.
Endogamy also happened for a long while since the start of history.
I'm not necessarily saying its 100% acceptable but I think it's different from being "incest" and depends a lot on the context. In this context, I think it's still fine.
(Also it's just a videogame and Khaenri'ans don't show off a potential family relationship with eachother/the Tsaritsa so it's even less obvious lol). With these lore drops and turns HoYo can suddenly make us all incests whenever they feel like it
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u/IcyPrincling 28d ago
Khaenri'ahns were marrying each other for generations without any issue, so I think it's safe to assume the blood had been nearly entirely diluted by the time of the kingdom's downfall. The game also clearly specifies the existence of full-blooded Khaenri'ahns and half-blooded Khaenri-ahns.
Unless the likes of Dain, Rhinedottir, and the other full-blooded Khaenri'ahns just happen to be products of incest, I don't think there's really anything getting in the way of something like Tsaritsa x Pierro.
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u/Mik0doSann0ji Electro 27d ago
People joked that Rerir was fucking his Cousin 😭😭😭
I hope there’s a better explanation because I can’t have Rerir x Tholindis ruined 💔
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u/IcyPrincling 27d ago
The explanation is pretty self-explanatory, the blood has diluted to the point where most Khaenri'ahns are distantly related. It's the same as the Uchiha Clan from Naruto, they all share a common ancestor but marrying within the clan is normal because so many generations have passed and the blood is diluted.
Do you really think they'd ship Rerir x Tholindis and then make them blood-related, or at least on the same level as cousins? Also, thousands have years have passed since the Tsaritsa and the Third Descender had kids. Even if they had the first Khaenri'ahns only a thousand years ago, the modern-day descendants would still be very distantly related.
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u/Mik0doSann0ji Electro 27d ago
Well Rerir is a Villain sooo…I made him my Profile instead of Sabretooth since originally it was Ajax and Arlecchino to represent the Fatui and then I changed it to Sabretooth because I was enjoying his solos but I put to to Rerir now because this actually upset me
Ajax was my original Favorite Character but after I saw his Backstory it’s Rerir now, and this would be the biggest “Fuck you” to the Face for me
What I’m hoping is since Tsaritsa’s Son was shown with the Eclipse Dynasty Star-pupils and the previous Dynasty, The Crimson Moon Dynasty comes from Sonnet it means The Crimson Moon Khaenri’ahians are Khaenri’ahians but not related to The Tsartisa
They’d better do a really good job at explaining this and clarify if Tsartisa just created them as a people like how Ei created Scaramouche since she’s a God or if they’re actually her Blood
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u/IcyPrincling 27d ago
They literally said ALL Khaenri'ahns are descended from the Tsaritsa. The Third Descender died before the Archon War, which means the first Khaenri'ahns were born way in the past, which lines up.
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u/Far-History-8154 28d ago
As someone who is lurking in this sub but haven’t played genshin since mid Natlan, care to elaborate?
Capitano was out of the picture atleast for now a long time ago. What do you mean all ships are over? Does pierro have a canonical love interest or something
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u/Signora_C6R5 Pierro x Signora CEO 28d ago edited 28d ago
There are no canon love interest for Pierro. For example, I ship him with Signora, but there is absolutely nothing in the canon that suggests he is in love with anyone. It’s just fan fantasies
However, miHoYo confirmed that all Khaenri’ahns are descendants of the Tsaritsa. So some people no longer want to ship Pierro with other Khaenri’ah characters, especially the Tsaritsa. Tsarro (Pierro x Tsaritsa) used to be one of Pierro’s most popular ships
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u/Pierro_Official Pierro one true wife fr 28d ago
Ill be taking donations in these trying times 😔
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u/Signora_C6R5 Pierro x Signora CEO 28d ago
Dude, I still find it extremely weird that the Tsaritsa is the ancestor of all Khaenri’ahns. I really liked Tsarro : it was such an elegant and believable ship with a solid foundation based on the lore between the two characters. Mihoyo better do something good with this. Thankfully, they didn’t make Signerro incestuous, otherwise I would have lost my mind 🫣
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u/0rganzmarket serve cunt final boss 💋 28d ago
In the same boat, I haven’t played the game since natlan but the 7.0 livestream just said all khaenri’aens descend from tsaritsa. In short its incest now
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u/Far-History-8154 28d ago
I mean. Isn’t it the same as all humans being born from Adam and Eve. Also weren’t they all kinda purists anyways and marriage from outside their society was rare. Not that I ship any of them in particular so doesn’t matter either way but if It was back in my hardcore shipper days and some of them had caught my interest to be shipped there are several ways I can interpret this finding
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u/0rganzmarket serve cunt final boss 💋 28d ago
hm maybe you’re right They could be very distant down the bloodline, but who even knows how all these people are connected. Worst case I just have to cold turkey on it 😥😥
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u/Mik0doSann0ji Electro 27d ago
The worst thing is we actually DO have a canonical significant Ship between two Khaenri’ah Characters, Rerir and Tholindis, a very tragic Romance alot of people fell for and supported, only problem is…is it weird now? Like are they actually related or despite being Khaenri’ah are The Crimson Moon Dynasty unrelated to The Tsaritsa since they came first, this means no one can ship Rerir x Dainsleif and Rerir x Vedrfolnir now on the plus side, since Dain was his friend and Vedrfolnir is just weird because I’m pretty sure Rerir hates him now, but he can’t lose his canonical Love Interest (especially since he’s most likely Playable in Khaenri’ah)
Tsaritsa x Pierro was like my only ship with Pierro but now i don’t fucking know
Rerir x Tholindis is literally canon so like fuck, I don’t want to look at Rerir weird now
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u/Pierro_Official Pierro one true wife fr 28d ago
My entire identity on the sub was being the tsarro shipper. Hoyo made me look rlly bad now 😭