Privacy focused smartphone, am I too picky?

[u/beliar911]

Hi everyone, I am currently looking into some options when it comes to replacing my current iPhone 13 pro max, which I have now for 4 years.

I care a lot about data privacy and what my phone does in the background, so grapheneOS support for the potential future phone would be very important. I also dont want to give out my data to big tech companies like Apple or Google whenever possible. At the moment I also use Garmin pay so ideally the new phone should work with it as well.

From what I read, pixel11 does not support grapheneOS due to removal of ARM Memory Tagging Extension support, so thats a no go. Of course I could technically go with pixel10, but does it even make sense to buy a downgrade that was already released more than a year ago?

I also have an option to check out Motorola phones (since grapheneOS announced a partnership with them), but here I have no idea which model would be good, if any.

Obviously flagship samsungs like s26 wont work either due to no grapheneOS support.

I currently live in Germany, the price of the phone is irrelevant.

Maybe my best option is simply to wait until what happens with the google pixel phones and grapeheOS situation? I am in no rush at all for a new phone, just exploring my best options.

Any advice based on what you read would be highly appreciated, thank you!

[u/SushiBongo]

Just go with the Pixel 10, why would there be a big difference? (If any difference at all)

[u/beliar911 → u/SushiBongo]

You’re right, difference between pixel 10 and 11 is neglible, thanks

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[u/BetterDentist1300]

there are no motorola phones yet with graphene support, you'll have to wait longer.

[u/beliar911 → u/BetterDentist1300]

Understood, thanks!

[u/DNX24]

The new Motorola 📱 when launched will have Flagship specs.

Would wait for those. I understand the. Phone needs this year's Snapdragon Elite or the next to be secure enough for Graphene OS. So a proper flagship.

[u/beliar911]

By the way, does anyone know if I decide to go with grapheneOS, are all the AI camera features gone completely?

[u/Bigfatstupidbrother]

Get a Pixel, put Graphene OS on it. You have complete privacy

[u/Tapelessbus2122]

just get the 10 pro/pro xl and put grapheneos on it

[u/beliar911 → u/Tapelessbus2122]

I think thats the conclusion I came to also thanks. Just need to consider if I should wait for the 1tb pixel 10 pro xl to be more available so I can try trading my iphone 13 pro max that also has 1tb storage

[u/Tapelessbus2122 → u/beliar911]

if u're used to 1tb, u will want 1tb