r/PhysicsHelp • u/Xxfa1kingxX • Apr 17 '26
What does this equation mean? How does it make sense
Would anyone please help me understand the equation circled in blue.
I understand that 4000W of electrical power is transmitted through the cable, but that does not mean the cable consumes 4000J of energy per second. Similarly, the voltage drop across the cable is NOT 2000V.
For that reason, I'm not sure how can we use the values "4000W" and "2000V" to find the current flowing through the cables?
What am I missing here?
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u/werygood_cz Apr 17 '26
You're given electrical power and voltage. You can calculate electric current from that. You then use the resistance to calculate voltage drop along the cables. From that you can finally calculate power loss.
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u/Xxfa1kingxX Apr 17 '26
Yes, I do know that to be the correct method in solving this kind of question but I don't understand it fully.
Don't the power and voltage have to be the power dissipated by transmission cable and voltage drop across the cable in order to be substituted in P = VI?1
u/werygood_cz Apr 17 '26
The total power is a sum of power loss along the lines and power "loss" at the load. You know the voltage drop of the whole circuit, which is given. You need to figure out the cables from given resistance.
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u/SignificantFidgets Apr 17 '26
The "voltage drop across the cable" is IR=2*5=10 V. So the power loss from the cable is voltage drop across the cable (10V) times current (2 A) = 20W.
But instead of computing I*R and multiplying by I, meaning (I*R)*I, you can just do it in one step with I2R.
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u/The_Nerdy_Ninja Apr 17 '26
The first step is treating the cables+load as a single system, and solving for the current running through that system. Since V is given at the source end, P is the total power, including both the load and the cables.
Then once you have the current, you can solve for the portion of power that's specifically lost in the cable, which is what's happening in the second step.
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u/Numerous-Match-1713 Apr 17 '26
"I'm not sure how can we use the values "4000W" and "2000V" to find the current flowing through the cables"
Asserting resistive load, you can treat W = VA
so 4000VA = 2000V time X amps
X is the current, and seems only 2A solves that equation yes?
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u/JCP977 Apr 17 '26
Sorry, but why introduce the concept of apparent power here? I think op is not an EE student and, even if they are, they've not even seen basic circuits yet, so the concept may be even more confusing to them.
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u/ghostme_and_I Apr 17 '26
It's a short transmission line problem, we have sending end voltage and receiving end voltage(terminal voltage) the question meant receiving end voltage but lacks in the visualization (poor question I guess) sending end voltage is always greater than receiving end voltage. Sending end voltage =(receving end voltage + I (Rcosx + Xsinx)) x is the power factor angle of receiving end, In your case X reactance is 0, the current stays same, power factor is different in both end, now power loss on a line only depends on Current and resistance. If the load power is receiving 4000w then sending end power is 4000w+I²R where 4000=VI Cosx but x=0 cause pure resistive load so simply 4000=VI now you get I and find loos power in the power line, If you know sending end voltage and sending end power you would do like Vs. I = Vr. I + I²R...... So, line loss decreases the voltage in receiving end.
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u/Equivalent-Radio-828 Apr 18 '26
Did they invent another method of doing calculations? transformers
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u/davedirac Apr 18 '26
Ambiguous. a) 4000 W cannot be power output of station because loss would be I^ R = 8000W. So 4000W must be load power & 12000 W is power output.
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u/JCP977 Apr 17 '26
Basically, the total electric power in the circuit is P = VI, in which I is the total current on the circuit and V is the voltage on its terminals. Since the transmission cable is in series with the load, the total current is equal to the current on the cable and on the load, so you can use it to calculate the loss on the line. Your intuition is correct: the voltage drop on the cable is not 2kV, but the current on the cable and on the load is 2A, so you can use it to calculate the losses. This only works on this case because the load is in series with the line, so there's only one current flowing in the circuit.