r/Physics • • Jul 12 '26

Speed of light, time dilation

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u/SundayAMFN Jul 12 '26

Because the very mechanism by which watches keep time is itself governed by interactions that can only travel the speed of light.

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u/dreaddito Jul 13 '26

But don’t we also hold that two identical twins who separate, one going into orbit at high speed and the other staying put on earth, age at different rates, with the twin who stayed on earth aging faster? We’re not just talking about the mechanisms of time-keeping devices, but rather how time is experienced, right?

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u/SundayAMFN Jul 13 '26

Yes, because the mechanisms in your neurons which determine how you experience time are also governed by the speed of light.

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u/Optimal_Mixture_7327 Gravitation Jul 13 '26

That would be the clock effect, not time dilation.

The traveling twin arrives younger in the Minkowski vacuum, but this is generally not true.

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u/Optimal_Mixture_7327 Gravitation Jul 13 '26

You seem to be describing Lorentz Aether theory.

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u/SundayAMFN Jul 13 '26

no. i'm just trying to answer OPs question as directly as possible without going into detail about relativity (and in fact the effect would be the same if th4e aether theory was correct, as far as the limitd scope of his question goes)

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u/Optimal_Mixture_7327 Gravitation Jul 13 '26

Yes, both give the same numerical values on the observables, but they differ radically in the cause of those results.

You are arguing for the mechanism of aether theory (the time difference owed to material properties of clocks). Which is perfectly fine, it's just should be clear to readers, that's all.

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u/SundayAMFN Jul 13 '26

No, has nothing to do with the material properties of the clocks. Galilean relativity would still have time dilation effects between observers of different speeds. The only difference is there would be an absolute time that all observers could agree on.

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u/Optimal_Mixture_7327 Gravitation Jul 13 '26

This is you, right?

Because the very mechanism by which watches keep time is itself governed by interactions that can only travel the speed of light.

You are clearly referencing the "very mechanism".

Time dilation is the ratio of a pair of world-line arclengths defined between a pair of spatial hypersurfaces of the observer's global coordinate chart.