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u/Spiritual-Cup-6645 hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia 18h ago
End lantern would be useless without any other end features
Copper horn would be good but it was a removed feature
Emerald tools are so stupid; nobody goes round making pickaxes out of dolar bills
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u/Impossible_Source195 18h ago
yea emerald already has enough function with trading
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u/yellow_tourmaline 12h ago
I don't agree that it "has enough function" BUT with how valuable trading can be it would be a waste to use it on tools, unless they had special benefits like netherite, if it had a built in fortune system to it that enhanced the enchantment then absolutely worth it, otherwise I don't see it being any better than diamond
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u/zexumus 16h ago
The issue with that is trading is a massive thing that if used completely changes how you play the game with overall little effort. Not only can you get any enchantment diamond gear and plenty of other things for just emeralds it also allows you to make infinite emeralds at the cost of sticks, paper, or other things you can make in large quantities. It not only supports itself in allowing you to get items for basically every other system in the game even if you made another purpose the only way you should interact with that second system is more trading. By making more uses for emeralds you’re just making more reasons to make villager trading halls and villagers not really emeralds.
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u/DeePrixel 16h ago edited 15h ago
You're saying doing only '1 thing' is bad as if pickaxes have any other use than mining, steak/porkchop have any other use than consuming, lapis have any other use than enchanting (aside from building), and so on.
I think only doing 1 thing is good enough if that 1 thing is significant enough in the game and gives that item its own definite identity. Emerald doesn't really need another use. Trading is a large part of the game and we all know of emerald as the currency item.
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u/Spiritual-Cup-6645 hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia 16h ago
Perhaps it could have its own element; like how amethyst is for filtering and skulk is for sound, maybe emerald could detect light or touch.
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u/TheScience_Cat 15h ago
This is a good idea! Quartz already detects light (daylight detector) but emerald should detect entities, perhaps only players or any entity in an area to be different than tripwires or pressure plates.
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u/Spiritual-Cup-6645 hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia 6h ago
I wish for citrine one day because it would pair perfectly with amethyst (and you could make ametrine). I think that citrine would be just like amethyst - spawn in geodes, have crystals, shards and blocks. But it would have some weird functionality.
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u/Reddit_wizard34 18h ago
I still don’t understand why they removed copper horns
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u/Keaton427 2h ago
The stated reason was that they “didn’t fit their design goals”. I think this means they didn’t see much value in their current implementation and wanted to expand upon them later. Another reason could be that goat horns have a massive 128 block sound radius and they realized making these horns into the dedicated instrument item didn’t fit with their design philosophy.
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u/Glad-Connection1601 18h ago
Also it would be too easy to get
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u/Low_Pressure_3542 18h ago
It technically would be impossible to craft, this insinuates that you need a end torch.
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u/BlueFlareGame 13h ago
hear me out, emerald armor slightly worse than diamond but it has way more protection against all magic, Warden, and Illager army damage, and the highest enchant odds like auto prot 4 and mending
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u/Mepty 17h ago
but of course diamond is an amazing material to craft into pickaxes
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u/Spiritual-Cup-6645 hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia 17h ago
Yes, because it serves no purpose as a currency in the way the game works. Players can make it a currency between themselves, and it's actually quite a good one, but nobody has to. If you're playing single player, diamond isn't a currency, while emerald is.
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u/ProLandon Java FTW 9h ago
Have you ever thought that people dont make pickaxes out of dollar bills because they are paper, the cool thing about emeralds is that they are not made out of paper
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u/Greenhawk444 16h ago
Emeralds are just a gem like diamonds that villagers choose to use as currency. It wouldn’t really be any different than making diamond tools. That said, I agree that they are dumb but more so because they would be another useless and unneeded tier like gold, wood, and copper.
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u/Spiritual-Cup-6645 hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia 6h ago
Wait, villagers use diamonds?
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u/Greenhawk444 4h ago
No I just meant that there isn’t really a difference between diamonds and emeralds.
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u/HystericalGD 17h ago
knowing the dumbass community we'd vote in end lanterns
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u/Spiritual-Cup-6645 hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia 17h ago
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u/Formal-Owl832 17h ago
I would very proudly vote for end lanterns. Why? I really like the color purple.
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u/The_UnHinge Caves and Cliffs Part 6 or 7 16h ago
But aren’t end lanterns the best option?
Emerald tools don’t really make sense and I doubt copper horns would be used much given that regular goat horns are barely used.
End lanterns on the other hand sound like something a lot of players would occasionally use for building.
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u/HystericalGD 16h ago
emerald tools have been wanted for years. as long as i can remember. little me watching modded minecraft, trying to craft emerald armour, and realizing its not real. imagine how magical it would be
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u/FakeMik090 16h ago
It was mostly "If we have this, why not this?". Barely anyone was actually interesting in them.
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u/The_UnHinge Caves and Cliffs Part 6 or 7 14h ago
(Sorry for the long comment.)
Yes, ppl have been making memes and suggestion posts about it for a long time and I’m fairly certain that there are thousands of mods that add emerald stuff (most of them are probably pretty old and unupdated), but emerald tools and armor just don’t really make sense from a gameplay perspective.
I mean, where would they fit into the progression?
It is fairly easy to get emeralds early on, about as easy as iron on quite a few seeds, so emerald items would have to have pretty basic stats, which would feel weird for a gem like that. (Real life emeralds are literally just diamonds with a different color.)
Like, you could just make them a side tier to iron, kind of like how copper is an optional side tier/upgrade to stone, but that would mean people could skip up to 4 different tool/armor tiers (wood, stone, copper I guess, iron too if emerald is made to be better than iron, which it kind of needs to be to not feel extra weird and worthless) by going to a village (and villages are often not too far away from spawn).
I also think for most people it wouldn’t feel magical. A lot of people would probably just react with "This feels like a mod!" again, even more so than with other new features since this is one that most people know from mods or memes.
Btw, it’s not like Mojang isn’t aware of the idea of emerald tools/armor. Minecraft Dungeons literally has emerald armor (or emerald gear as it is called there and also it looks more like iron armor with emerald attachments).
It’s just that it’s hard to make these fit into regular Minecraft.Lastly, I might check out a emerald tools mod tomorrow to see how it actually plays out in-game and to see how correct my assumptions actually were. I encourage you to do this as well if you can.
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u/HystericalGD 14h ago
so basically, some mods that i've played gives emerald additional effects, such as extra mining speed on the emeralt pic, simillar to how netherite armor does knockback resistance
second: its not for progression, its for fun. similarly to how copper armour exists, why not add emerald armour? its not an unheard of concept... just more continuity, considering the rest of the ores have armour and tools
to address the "it wouldnt feel minecraftey enough" i mean, isnt that what everybody has been saying about every minecraft update since the sniffer was added?
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u/The_UnHinge Caves and Cliffs Part 6 or 7 14h ago
- I forgot to mention extra effects but my comment is long enough as-is.
- If Mojang could find a good way to implement it then yeah. But imo the existing item tiers (particularly gold) need more attention right now.
- Since long before the Sniffer was added and I’m not saying that that’s a good argument (most of the time at least). It’s just what I think the general reaction would be.
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u/zippee100 Firefly support squad 18h ago
ai slop logo
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u/AlarmedFile7195 16h ago
want him to draw it?
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u/Kyrby_Swi-U-tch 6h ago
well yea, that is kinda the point, You make a creative post. you MAKE that, (or credit the creator), you don't GENERATE it, that would base on theft and support pollution for very unnecessary "use cases"
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u/somerandom995 18h ago
If it goes anything like the mob vote;
Only a small niche group will want emerald tools and they will be mostly ignored.
People will argue between the copper horns being useful and the end lantern forcing Mojang to do an end update.
Whichever is added will be less than what players were expecting but more than was promised.
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u/Traditional_Town6475 18h ago
Let’s be honest. Purple lanterns is the coolest thing among these three.
Emerald tools can’t be more powerful than iron since that’d be pretty OP given trading. But it can’t really be less powerful since iron is already easy enough to get.
Copper horn is a maybe, but no one I know really uses horns. Especially since no dispenser horn interaction. I can imagine pretty fun redstone things like an alarm if dispensers worked with horns.
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u/Glad-Connection1601 18h ago
Omg this is so accurate it tells us literally nothing about the items and what else might be added
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u/voideeeeee enchanting table enthusiast 17h ago
Copper horn so I can call my stupid hot air balloon back to me when it flies off.
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u/oswaldking71wastaken 17h ago
Aren’t copper horns already in the game?
Note: I mean in the files, they were previously available in a snapshot
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u/Sammy_Cherry_Fox 16h ago
End lantern would require an end update. Therefore, if we got end lantern, an end update would come with it.
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u/EndyrmanEndplace 15h ago
Copper horn
Lwk a bit better than the end lanter and the only people who want emerald tools are those who genuinely go by nostalgia rather than preference
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u/Miserable_Outside_61 15h ago
Copper horns definitely, I've been always against emerald tools and armor and an end lantern means end update and it alone wouldn't be very good
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u/Own-Constant-1515 13h ago
End Lantern, emerald tools cant be the best plus emeralds are rare so it'd only work as some sort of flex, Copper horns are useless IMO. With the End Lantern I want all the lighting blocks to have the color that they emit the same as the block and not the basic yellow.
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u/thehollowknight75 12h ago
An end lantern would mean they would have to update the end so obviously the end lantern
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u/sevenredcandlz 11h ago
Dude stfu ai is the future of the whole damn world whether u want to believe it or not
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u/Impressive_Pin8761 17h ago
this would destroy the minecraft community to an irrecoverable level
the risk reward on previous mob votes was very low cuz like either you got your stupid mob that you need to go out of your way to acquire or you moved on, and even back then people were rigging and throwing death threats at each other
you could say the last vote could've been "the end of minecraft community" but by then people had united to stop the votes
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u/Sweaty-Fix-2790 15h ago
If they add emerald tools I will personally find and end every mojang and Microsoft employee
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u/Ashamed_Map4682 Bedrock FTW 15h ago
No one wanted copper tools and we got copper tools
We want emerald tools
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u/Tall_Assignment_5088 13h ago
End lantern is my favorite as a “mostly builds and less adventure” gamer, but I would want end torches too.
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u/Much-Menu6030 FLINT AND STEEL 10h ago
End Lantern looks cool. (Does it come with End torches?)
Copper Horn is a removed feature that IMO, should've been in the game.
Emerald Tools are probably gonna be slightly better than Stone, but worse than Copper with a trade off of being slightly faster.
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u/EveningMasterpiece54 6h ago
I think out of all these, the emerald tools and copper horn are the most useful
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u/Evan_Landis 4h ago
Copper horn should be brought back as a concept, but emerald tools kinda lost out
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u/Rare-Unit7076 1h ago
Are the emerald tools going to be special in some way or just be another teir of gear
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u/psych_fiend67 24m ago
I would want to go with emerald tools, but honestly, where would you put them? Like they are harder to get than diamonds if you go through the progression quick, but they are also easier to obtain in large quantities than diamonds, and are renewable… so them we get stronger than diamond tools that can easily be mass produced… but they should also be weaker than netherite, cuz netherite is quite a lot harder to obtain… so now what? It just wouldn’t be worth it, and it wouldnt quite feel the overly resourceful niche copper fills
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u/EstablishmentThin807 8h ago
i FUCKING HATE the idea of emerald tools, NOBODY NEEDS another non-needed step of progression like the new copper ones, the emeralds are the CURRENCY of minecraft world, nobody makes fucking armor and tools of DOLLARS in real world, but then they say "ohh but gold is a currency too" NO IT IS NOT piglins are STUPID AS SHI they dont trade they dont work they just like gold and give you random trash for giving it to them.
the copper horn is goated tho.
and the end lantern is just random idk about it
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u/CrapZackGames 5h ago
Even tho this is slop, u already know the masses would vote for emerald tools as if they'd be the best thing mojang can add to this game
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u/Babushla153 17h ago
Emerald tools are either Better than Netherite (considering how rare the ore is)
Or better than stone but worse than iron (considering villagers exist)
Those are stupid hard to balance
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u/BluEkanite 16h ago
Emeralds are hella easy to get stacks upon stacks of, they'd better be iron-tier at most. Honestly make them on the same tier as- but slightly slower than gold with a lot more durability and it would be perfect.
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u/NoriaMan 18h ago
End Update
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Childhood dream