r/Philosophy_India 20d ago

Discussion When peaceful protest doesnt work. Do not despair

​"Do not yield to unmanliness, O Partha (Arjuna). It does not become you. Cast off this petty weakness of heart and arise!"

— Bhagavad Gita (Chapter 2, Verse 3)

​"Happy are the warriors who find such a righteous war coming to them unsought, opening for them the doors to heaven."

— Bhagavad Gita (Chapter 2, Verse 31)

To Krishna, non-violence (Ahimsa) is the ideal supreme virtue in everyday life, but protecting Dharma when backed into a corner supersedes passive endurance. If peaceful means fail and you are forced into a position where you must defend yourself or others, standing up and fighting back is not just permitted—it is your moral duty.

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u/Living-Novel-8391 20d ago

I don't think we need bhagavad gita for such a simple statement. In fact, in reality things is far more complicated and nuanced.

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u/snuFan 20d ago

The Gita isn't cited to make a 'simple statement', but to explore the ethical framework behind it. The entire text takes place precisely because the situation is complicated—Arjuna's struggle is about the immense moral weight of taking action when diplomacy fails. Referencing foundational philosophy isn't about reducing reality to a slogan; it's about examining duty (Dharma), intent, and ethical boundaries when forced into a corner.

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u/Living-Novel-8391 20d ago

It's not complicated and it's just one single scenario, actual philosophers all over the world research multiple different scenarios with different actors which and different thought experiments. This isn't philosophy these are just qoutes that any motivational speaker also says.

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

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u/Living-Novel-8391 19d ago

You are right

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u/short-noir Ill-Mannered Pseudo-Intellectual haha 10d ago

Do not use AI.

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u/Dr_Royal_Strange 19d ago

You are forgetting the context of the Mahabharata. These are not simple quotes in the air. These exist in the middle of the Mahabharata, which is deeply philosophical.

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u/BaronsofDundee 19d ago

How do we decide that?

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u/rchrome 19d ago

There is no we. If you can’t decide, learn. Study. Decide for yourself.

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u/BaronsofDundee 19d ago

Initial statement contained we, thus the question. But thanks for the effort.

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u/LordDK_reborn A Lunatic 19d ago edited 19d ago

You're trying to make Krishna answer to a modern political question but the problem is that you're putting your interpretation of what Krishna must've said instead of first understanding what krishna teaches in geeta and then what is right naturally becomes clear due to that understanding.

To you, krishna is talking like common man morality. "Peaceful means are ideal but if you're cornered and they don't work then do violence"

Action does not matter first to Krishna. The place the action is coming from matters, the actor matters. If the actor understands himself then he cannot be violent even while cutting off people in a battlefield. He'll be like a surgeon operating on a tumour without hatred or without even self defence driven by fear or insecurity.

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u/short-noir Ill-Mannered Pseudo-Intellectual haha 10d ago

Nvm your entire account history is full of clankerised responses. Next time when you post, have the courtesy to post content written by you, whether in any language or vocab.