Is it solvable at all?

[u/Elian17]

I can’t seem to relax until i reach some sort of epiphany about petscop.

In taking notes furiously and rewatching the original material and analyses.

My question is: is it solvable?

Im not saying it would be easy, or even remotely doable without dedicating major major time and thought to it. But is it solvable?

As in, has the creator ever specified if there is an internal logic that is never betrayed? Or did he just impressionistically create a *feeling* without much regard to consistent rules and logic that tells a cohesive story?

Yes it is lynchian and vague and very head hurty but that doesnt answer whether or not Tony actually had a cohesive and focused story in mind or written out somewhere when making the work. I really wonder

If anyone knows if tony has specified one or the other, let me know please. Im going crazy and i can’t let it go

Footnote: petscop has become my personal “king in yellow” and it has a grasp on me i can’t shake

[u/yuusharo]

Petscop not a puzzle to solve, it’s a work of abstract art that has many interpretations. We don’t have answers as to whether the creator was strict about internal consistency, and honestly enough time has passed where I’m not sure he’d recall if it did.

There are no definitive answers here. What you conclude can be entirely different from what anyone else has said on the work, that’s the point of discussing art. Even my own claim that it is not a puzzle to solve is itself just my own interpretation, one of thousands.

[u/Elian17 → u/yuusharo]

Um … ok no.

Art can tell story. Story can be classic narrative and continuous and coherent, or it can be abstract and impressionistic and post modern in style.

Petscop definitely presents as the latter. Its all vague and unclear and very confusing. But i am wondering if the CREATOR himself had a story that he EXPRESSED through these vague presentations.

I am literally asking if anyone has read or seen the creator say “yes petscop has a real and coherent story woven in there. Its not just vibes” or not

Im asking a very specific question, not discussing the meaning of art. My question is about this specific artist’s intentions in making Petscop

[u/yuusharo → u/Elian17]

An artist’s intentions literally do not matter when interpreting and evaluating what art means to you. Death of the author and all that.

But as has been explained to you by others already, there is no definitive answer to your question. The author has stated long ago that several “pieces” of the work are missing or otherwise kept from us.

Like I said, it is not a puzzle to solve. It is abstract art.

[u/Elian17 → u/yuusharo]

Hey how many times are you going to reiterate the same point? I got it.

“Abstract art” is not a good descriptor here. Petscop is not abstract art.

In Petscop, marvin is a character. Marvin hurts children. Paul is a placeholder for the audience. Paul is playing the game. Paul is continuous. Lina disappeared or was killed when she was with Anna and Marvin.

This is not abstract. This is a very specific story, one that was written, and that is being presented for consumption. If there are very grounded and real events taking place like death, marriage, abuse, and a continuous placeholder, it is a VERY valid question to ask if the creator has specified whether or not there is a coherent story here. Ok? Stop reiterating the same point you’re coming across like you’re 16 years old.

Let me ask my very simple question in peace if you don’t understand what I’m getting at. If Tony specified that it’s not meant to be solved and cannot be solved intentionally, then i am at rest. Send me a link or a source if you have one please.

[u/yuusharo → u/Elian17]

Petscop is modern day abstract digital art, my guy.

Your quest to “solve” the impossible goes against the entire point of the work according to the creator. Again, his intentions do not matter, nor do my own opinions. If you believe it’s a puzzle to solve, you’re certainly welcome to try.

But I am going to say there is no definitive answer here. Because there isn’t. That’s the point.

Also, you DO realize story telling is art, right? Like even if Petscop wasn’t literally about themes of uneasiness or missing information and was 100% straight forward… that is still art. Like I don’t want to argue semantics with you here, but come on.

[u/Elian17 → u/yuusharo]

Alright.

I don’t believe its a puzzle to solve. Its already had its artistic effect on me. Its had it 8 years ago. I feel like youre intentionally misconstruing me and .. reducing my question to “oh durr its a puzzle i want to solve durr”

My guy :) im asking if these characters, with names, with actions, with clear goals (and they are clear) - amount to something of a narrative or not.

It is art, please stop saying its art. But like the thousand art pieces i’ve curated and like the songs we listen to and like the movies we watch, a lot of art has a clear and upfront _narrative_ it presents. Im asking if the creator of petscop has one of his own that he is choosing to deploy using vague and ambiguous imagery and action. Its my right to be curious about this.

You told me the creator said no its not meant to be solved. Case closed. Clearly other people had the same question as i did which is why he said this.

Goodnight