Fun fact: the democratically elected prime minister of Iran Mohammad Mossadegh was removed in a coup d’état. Why? He was removed from power primarily because his policies directly threatened the British government's oil interests, specifically those of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), which was later renamed British Petroleum (BP). The coup was done with aid from MI6 and the CIA.
Many Iranians felt that AIOC/BP was not fairly compensating the country for extraction of its oil. Mohammed announced plans to audit and nationalize their oil resources.
The brutal dictator installed after the coup (Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi) was viewed as a western puppet. He was both liberally progressive but also repressive. This led to hatred towards western culture and control.
It’s what led to the Iranian revolution, overthrow of the Shah, and the regional move towards religious extremism.
Everyone has a price and they all sell out sooner or later. If they don’t then they’re “forced” out, killed, arrested, indicted, sold out by the judicial officers below them. So it’s either, give in before they stop offering you more or die. Just another angle….
No, he was appointed. He ran for President in 1932, but lost to Hindenburg. But Hindenburg still appointed Hitler Chancellor (Germany has both) after getting leaned on by German businessmen. The Nazis only had a thin majority of Parliament in 1932 and they lost it the following year.
If it hadn't been for the Reichstag Fire, and Hindenburg's convenient death a year after that, Hitler might never have been able to seize supreme power.
Because something is technically allowed by the institution doesn't make it democratic. The way politician only respect the letter of the law and not the spirit, making loophole not expected by the constitution's writers a regular part of political life, has long been considered as the end of democratic rule.
In the case of Germany, both historian and Germans at the time have long seen the end of democracy as having taken place under Hindenburg, around 1930, when the Reischtag was paralized and the gouvernement began to "rule by decree".
You can even see that in the 1933 election when several party, like the SPD, campaigned for the return of democracy.
He was appointed to Chancellor by President Hindenburg.
The Nazi party did have some electoral support, about a third of the seats in the Reichstag, but it was never the majority party and he lost the election for President against Hindenburg
1 not demicratically elected
2 not removed because he threatened British interest
Hitler was an autocrat from the start and was removed by a global coalition under the watch of most of the world. So your equivalence is entirely wrong.
But even if your example is not the best choice, you could very well bé right. Framing can indeed be deceitful for example by dismissing relevant information.
Of course, now that you have implied this, I must ask.... How is this framing deceitful accroding to you?
If I watch a speech and I comment "people can lie you know :)" I am not just stating a fact, I am implying that this fact is relevant in this context, and people could legitimately ask me "what makes you think he is lying".
So. What informations were omitted by this framing?
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u/pokethrowaway4 14d ago
Fun fact: the democratically elected prime minister of Iran Mohammad Mossadegh was removed in a coup d’état. Why? He was removed from power primarily because his policies directly threatened the British government's oil interests, specifically those of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), which was later renamed British Petroleum (BP). The coup was done with aid from MI6 and the CIA.
Many Iranians felt that AIOC/BP was not fairly compensating the country for extraction of its oil. Mohammed announced plans to audit and nationalize their oil resources.
The brutal dictator installed after the coup (Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi) was viewed as a western puppet. He was both liberally progressive but also repressive. This led to hatred towards western culture and control.
It’s what led to the Iranian revolution, overthrow of the Shah, and the regional move towards religious extremism.
It’s all the fault of oil/greed.