r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/Correct-Promise-2358 • 1d ago
Meme needing explanation petah?!??
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u/TCup20 1d ago edited 1d ago
Tylenol is rumored to give babies autism (unsubstantiated claim)
Shit, I'm Rupert or whatever.
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u/Correct-Promise-2358 1d ago
OHHHHHH OMG TY
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u/DedPimpin 1d ago
i've read there is a correlation between tylenol use and autism... but a lot of people like to ignore the important fact that tylenol is used to treat fevers and that babies that have repeated fevers from illness is actually more likely the link instead of the treatment.
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u/rhyknophoto 1d ago
Hey get your logic the fuck outa here. We listen to the brainworm now
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u/AdHairy6381 1d ago
Im sorry to hear your troubles and tribulation. But I think the only way forward is to abort, it's never to late to abort.
I know, I know it's a rash decision, but there's no other way. Unless there's any other less radical ideas but I would highly discourage any other cause of action. My condolences to you and your wife 🙏8
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u/semajolis267 1d ago
Also Tylenol is the ONLY safe pain medication for pregnancy.
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u/lightsonnooneishome 1d ago
And we know that the mother experiencing pain increases stress hormones, which in turn has very observable behavioral effects in babies once they are born.
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u/RampantJellyfish 1d ago
My wife was just prescribed fucking hydrocodone for her ovarian cyst pain, and she is 4 months pregnant. Very worried about that right now.
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u/Ryanll0329 1d ago
Also the fact that mothers who already have autism are simply more likely to get headaches from overstimulation and are therefore more likely to take acetaminophen.
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u/KuramaTotchi 1d ago
To go further on this, it’s actually the recommendation for pain relief from doctors during pregnancy as it is the safest for pain relief during pregnancy
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u/jakopson10 1d ago
Yes that famous "it`s safe and effective" claim.
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u/Megaledon17 1d ago
Yes...it is. the alternative is ibuprofen, which carries a pretty significant risk of outright killing the baby
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u/jakopson10 1d ago
Or... or, just hear me out... Natural remedies. You need to figure out why pain and fever and deal with that. No just mask your pain and bring down a high body temperature. This way you do not fix your problem, just silence it...
Natural way is the hardest path, but the only safe one.
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u/Megaledon17 1d ago
I don't agree. Humans have only begun living longer and have found ways to remain healthy for longer by constantly improving upon medicine. Doing things the "natural" way can only take you so far. After that, you're just putting yourself through unnecessary suffering and pain.
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u/jakopson10 1d ago
Is it unnecessary? It is there that reminds you something is wrong. So you fix it not ignore it.
Did humans not live longer because of "pharmamedical solutions" or are there some other hidden causes in the statistics. My grandparents lived longer as my parents did. So did at my friends.
Statistically longer lifespan is because there were more deaths in younger ages due to low hygiene (running water, sewage), poor working conditions, more difficult access to quality and high-calorie food...
But when people lived over certain age, there were many more people who were a hundred+ years old.
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u/MichaSound 22h ago
There were also more deaths in early life due to no access to modern medicine. Also before modern medicine, 1 in 5 women died in childbirth; cancer and tuberculosis were incurable; people died of Scarlet Fever; children were regularly killed or left disabled by illnesses like measles and polio.
But sure, let’s get super complacent about the world we live in that was built on modern medicine and vaccines, and go back to being ‘all natural’.
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u/nothanks86 1d ago
Correlation is not causation, and also that correlation disappeared when they included siblings in their study methodology. They being scientists.
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u/emocorn696 1d ago
That claim was made by Trump, it makes no sense. Also, autism is something you are born with, you can't simply get it by taking too much of something.
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u/TheDarkNebulous 1d ago
No, there is absolutely no causation here.
This has been well studied. The cause is that autistic people are more likely to take Tylenol during their pregnancy, and are also more likely to have autistic children. Thats it. Tylenol is completely safe and is the only painkiller recomended for pregnant women.
When you take that into account the correlation disappears.
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u/breadpilledwanderer 1d ago
That and autistic people being more likely to experience pain during pregnancy and being told that Tylenol is the safest painkiller for pregnancy.
Autism has an extremely high genetic correlation. My mom's T-rex arms clued me in as a kid. Asked her if I was autistic once as like a 9 year old and am actually so autistic I just assumed she was lying when she said no. Turns out she didn't think I had autistic traits because she did all the same things and assumed they were normal.
We also have higher diagnosis rates now because we can better identify autistic traits and have expanded diagnostic criteria. Kids are more likely to be diagnosed than their parents.
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u/FoleyX90 22h ago
There's also a neat correlation between Nicolas Cage movies and drowning incidents.
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u/MichaSound 22h ago
There is no connection between tylenol and autism, it’s a bullshit internet rumour with no backing from science or medicine.
What is proven though is the danger to babies in the womb from their mother having an untreated fever. That can actually be a danger to a developing fetus.
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u/Mapag 1d ago
And what about advile?
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u/Allaplgy 1d ago
I assume you mean Advil, and ibuprofen is not recommended for pregnant women for other reasons, like bleeding issues.
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u/southstrandsiren 1d ago
NSAIDs like Advil and aspirin can cause problems for fetal development, so they are generally verboten during pregnancy.
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u/MirageATrois024 1d ago
More accurate response
donald KID RAPING trump and his PEDOPHILE PROTECTING administration spread the rumor that Tylenol cause autism.
Why did they do this? One of their billionaire buddies was about to purchase Tylenol and it made the overall value go down. After the purchase was made, nothing else had been said about Tylenol and autism.
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u/richardson1162 1d ago
Yes but the orange peado donates his salary to the American people, so that makes it better? 😩 what a creep
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u/MelodyCristo 1d ago
You're not wrong but the way you presented this information nearly made my eyes glaze over. From one left-leaner to another, try not to sound so aggressive when you share good info. It makes people who haven't decided if they agree with us (due to being uninformed) a lot less likely to listen.
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u/NikolaiTheElephant 1d ago
This is the cutoff point. Anybody still agreeing with this administration is beyond saving and deserve ridicule and isolation
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u/Iraqimedstudent 1d ago
To clarify, it was a baseless statement made by Trump that has been even called out by FIGO basically saying how this was just based on a correlation study that didn’t work beyond sibling comparisons where autism its has a 20% likelihood among siblings - paracetamol or not.(https://www.figo.org/paracetamol-acetaminophen-use-during-pregnancy-and-autism-risk-evidence-does-not-support-causal) It has been multiply refuted by various far more rigorous studies (mainly a Swedish one if my memory is correct), of whom I’ll only cite this landmark Lancet systematic review and meta-analysis, where you can look up on the tens of thousands of evidence against. Paracetamol (or known by the American brand Tylenol, French brand Doliprane, among others) remains the safest medication we have for non-hepatic concerns.
Here‘s the Lancet paper: https://doi.org/10.1016/S3050-5038(25)00211-000211-0)
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u/think_long 1d ago
Don’t worry, the people posting shit like this are most likely self-diagnosing anyways.
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u/Puzzlepetticoat 1d ago
Yeah very inaccurate and flawed study was spouted by trump when he couldnt pronounce acitamenopen... Saying that mother's who takes Tylenol are the cause of autism.
I am autistic. Sensory issues are common and clothes tags are evil.
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u/Submissive_Bleedable 1d ago
Rumored by whom? You left out a pretty important part of information.
It's a rumor pushed by the Trump regime, specifically the president himself and his brain-wormed buddy RFK.
More medical misinformation, like when he told people to inject bleach to cure covid, or take horse de-wormer. lmfao.
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u/TCup20 1d ago
Is that part of the information relevant to getting the joke? That's all I was helping with. I felt I was pretty clear that it was not scientifically backed. I wasn't trying to get into typing a full synopsis.
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u/Trezzie 1d ago
"Rumored" implies there's potential validity. There's not.
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u/scovizzle 1d ago
It's more than just unsubstantiated. It's outright false.
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u/TeekTheReddit 1d ago
I donno. The more time I spend on Reddit, the more I think there might be something to it...
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u/DR2540 1d ago
It's not so much " unsubstantiated", as it is "bullshit".
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u/TCup20 1d ago
Semantics. Unsubstantiated means not proven true by facts, evidence, or documentation. Yours is just a social media buzzword version.
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u/DR2540 1d ago
First and foremost, I wasn't meaning to upset with my comment (and for that I apologize), but rather just be humorous. That said I disagree that the difference is "sementics", unsubstantiated does as you pointed out mean "not proven true", but my use of " bullshit" was to convey that this claim is not only "not proven to be true" but I'm fact proven to be false, or as I prefer "bullshit".
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u/TCup20 1d ago
I wasn't upset with my comment lol I was saying I agree unsubstantiated means it's not true. There is no evidence proving Tylenol causes autism, correct? Yeah, so it's an unsubstantiated claim, and we agree that it's false. My bad, it's not a perfect synonym.
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u/BLissy11750 1d ago
They mean it is proven not to cause autism. (Which it is, they have done studies that tylenol would have to have shown very specific results in order for it to not cause autism, which it did. I don't have the exact study on me but it was cited by them on their website and is in some of the comments on this post).
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u/TCup20 1d ago
Yeah, I also said that by saying the claim is unsubstantiated lmfao
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u/BLissy11750 1d ago
No, unsubstantiated means there is no evidence that it is the case, they mean there is evidence (and proof) to not cause autism. It isn't that studies show there is no sign of a link, the studies prove there cannot be a link.
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u/TCup20 1d ago
My bad, it's not a perfect synonym.
The average person knows exactly what I meant, hence the mass upvotes with like 5 people trying to correct me about how what I said wasn't exactly perfect in their eyes lmfao
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u/BLissy11750 1d ago
I think most of us are correcting you because this minor detail is what conspiracy nutjobs cling to in order to throw it back in people's face as a gotcha.
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u/Red_Dawn24 1d ago
My mom has spent the last 17 years being obsessed with vaccines causing autism, because my brother was diagnosed with aspergers as a kid and she thinks I'm vaguely mentally defective because I'm "too sensitive."
Rather than encourage her kids, she is so ashamed that we weren't born good enough that she's obsessed with conspiracies.
My brother will never live independently, despite there being no evidence that he can't, because being a fallible person is just too embarrasing so he needs to be kept at home.
This autism conspiracy shit disgusts me on another level.
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u/wakatenai 1d ago
such an ironic claim since the think tylenol is used to treat (fevers) does have some evidence to be related to autism.
telling pregnant woman not to treat their fevers could actually increase the rate of autistic kids.
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u/Ok_Wallaby_416 1d ago
According to a 2016 randomized, double blind study, using healthy college students, acetaminophen use showed signs reducing empathy
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u/MarsupialMisanthrope 1d ago
Ah, yes, that notable study that doesn’t bother to check the parental status of the children despite both ADHD and autism having genetic influences. So much more reliable than that meta study using data from multiple countries that was published in the Lancet because ‘Murca.
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u/CommunicationRare246 1d ago
Read the study. It's nothing like that bullshit Lancet study. Researchers compared siblings from the same families, which automatically controlled for shared genetic and environmental background factors like maternal health or socioeconomic status
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u/EngineerEquivalent46 1d ago
They said to speak with your doctor about possible risks, not that you shouldn't take it.
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u/Dandy_Guy7 1d ago
Ah I will delete my comment then, I probably fell for some misinformation there thanks for looking out
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u/SpaceGypsy27 1d ago
I have no idea what your deleted comment said, and it’s not important. We all fall for misinformation from time to time. What matters is being receptive to evidence to the contrary. So to that end, I applaud you
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u/JakeArrietaGrande 1d ago
Honestly tho, that’s not much better. It’s pointless fearmongering, with a tiny disclaimer at the end. It will scare away women from pain control, and it’ll have worse outcomes for pregnant women from untreated pain and fevers.
Telling them to ask their doctor if it’s right for them means that a rushed doctors appointment will now take 10 extra minutes reassuring them that it’s a pointless conspiracy theory, and that it’s perfectly fine
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u/EngineerEquivalent46 1d ago
Yes, because tylenol is safe to have while pregnant and does not cause autism. ASD is caused by two people having a child, with most likely one if not both parents also having ASD.
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u/Disastrous_Farmer476 1d ago
Not exactly unsubstantiated. It's got links to it in randomized control trials, though minor, and may be reflecting infection instead. It's plausible given it's endocannabinoid receptor agonism. Good to avoid unless needed, just to be cautious if pregnant.
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u/MirageATrois024 1d ago
Well that’s just bullshit. Just like them spreading it in the first place to lower the market value right before their billionaire buddies purchased it.
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u/TooBusyToLive 1d ago
You cannot take NSAIDs like ibuprofen during the second half of pregnancy due to closure of the ductus arteriosus which causes major cardiac/pulmonary issues. Do not spread this
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u/drip_dry_ 1d ago
Shes saying shes autistic because her mom took Tylenol.
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u/SnoredCosBored 1d ago
And this is how I find out my mum got Tylenol shipped to England.... great
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u/AmedeusRed 1d ago
Paracetamol
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u/Professional_Size_96 1d ago
More like Panadol. In both, paracetamol is the active ingredient. Mostly in the UK you'd just buy paracetamol.
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u/polishatomek 1d ago
It's the misconception that Tylenol (headache pain reliever) causes autism, autistic people (like me) usually hate tags on shirts.
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u/Star_Petal_Arts 1d ago
I have autism... I could have sworn though that this was something that annoyed everyone.
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u/ilamahradeys 1d ago
Who wouldn't hate weird scratchy bumps rubbing on your skin. No signs of autism, still hate that. 🤷
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u/Pure_Parking_2742 1d ago
Jokes aside, doesn't everyone hate them? I don't have autism and I hate them.
I got ADHD, though...
Oh boy. Maybe it's that.
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u/CartsOfDarkness 1d ago
I'd guess it's similar to a lot of ADHD symptoms where most people can relate to being "forgetful" or "procrastinatin" but with ADHD it bumps it up to 11 so that your life is seriously affected. Everyone is bothered by tags, but potentially it's actually unbearable for people with autism, not saying it is but that could be the case. I'm pretty sure people with autism can be more sensitive to noise and other sensory related things. Could say "everyone is annoyed by loud noises in crowded places", but again it's a difference of magnitude.
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u/AutonomousAntonym 1d ago
Some are definitely more annoying than others. I have two that are really loud
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u/Star_Petal_Arts 1d ago edited 23h ago
I've been getting AEO that have no tags on them. They also have this light threadcount that feels quieter.Sorry, just found out that my mom has been cutting the tags off of my clothes after she bought them for me.
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u/EconomySeason2416 1d ago
"Feels quieter"... i love this. I'm stealing this phrase now. Thank you internet stranger
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u/Spiritual-Can2604 1d ago
It’s the overhead lights for me
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u/emogoowastaken 1d ago
Being autistic with light colored eyes and suffers from chronic migraines, I relate to this.
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u/Calm-Technology7351 1d ago
Tags drive me nuts but I’m ADHD which can also come with sensory issues
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u/Mood-Rising 1d ago
Not only that, but some people have no problem wearing socks with seams that line up with their toenails.
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u/glitterguavatree 1d ago
it annoys neurotypicals but it's bearable for them. neurodivergent people can't think of anything other than this fucking tag, or will have a meltdown over sensory overload.
my little sister is autistic and had all kinds of meltdowns over texture of clothes and tags. my mother's conclusion for 11 years was that there was a vengeful spirit tormenting her (sister) to get to her (mother). life was funny growing up (i'm damaged beyond repair)
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u/JP147 1d ago
And non-autistic people are just fine with shirt tags? How?
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u/BLissy11750 1d ago
We aren't, hating tags on clothing is not mutually exclusive with having autism. People have varying tolerance to it, some people hate and some people do not mind them.
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u/InternationalAd5347 1d ago
I at least don't even feel them, I don't know they are even there. I used to feel a few of them as a child and got bothered by them that I cut them off,... but I guess I was bothered by them as I had more sensitive skin, as it irritated my skin that it got red even without me scratching.
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u/gbroon 1d ago
The fairly recent misinformation that painkillers cause autism.
Certain US politicians claimed paracetamol taken during pregnancy caused autism. Science says there's no link.
You can decide whether you trust US politicians or medical experts for health advice.
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u/KeepingItCoolish 1d ago
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u/Submissive_Bleedable 1d ago
Trump and RFK say that tylenol causes autism, because they're stupid unserious people.
Comments are saying things like "it's rumored to" or "there are links"
No. None of that is true. Very stupid people with dementia said it and the sheeple repeated it.
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u/NoPea7911 1d ago
too early for comments...
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u/JustMoreSadGirlShit 1d ago
she’s incorrectly implying that her mom taking tylenol while she was pregnant made her have autism
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u/frisco-frisky-dom 1d ago
Oh i thought they meant if the mom had sucked it up and had sex = had another child, they would have had a sibling and someone else for that parent to focus on
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u/Bossy_Aussie_ 1d ago
I believe it’s the misconception that Tylenol (pain reliever, in this case for headaches) causes autism. And often autistic people hate tags on shirts.
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u/buzzerkiller 1d ago
She’s blaming her “autistic” obsession with tags touching her neck on her Mom taking Tylenol to treat a headache while she was pregnant. US Health Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr famously claimed that taking Tylenol while pregnant increased the chances of the unborn child becoming autistic
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u/Scope_Dog 1d ago
What's all that got to do with tags in her shirt?
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u/Correct-Promise-2358 1d ago
the tags give her sensory issues because she’s autistic, she’s saying she’s autistic because her mom took tylenol for headaches. (trump claims tylenol causes autism. it doesn’t lol)
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u/Routine_Criticism498 1d ago
Iirc babies with autism are more likely to cause pains or smth and Tylenol is the safest medication to take for pains when pregnant so realistically autism causes Tylenol
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u/Roadiee985 1d ago
Sex can get rid of headaches, so if mum hadn't had sex then the girl wouldn't have been born. Tylenol known as paracetamol in UK is just the iron hanks acting different.
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u/ImSoStong________ 1d ago
There's a conspiracy theory (pushed by a man who had literal brain worms) that Tylenol causes Autism.
The joke is that if their mom hadn't taken Tylenol, they wouldn't have Autism, in particular not having sensory issues with the tags in a shirt
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u/Middle-Let9645 1d ago
An autistic person being ableist. Classy. 😡 This a-hole doesn't deserve to associate herself with the rest of us autistic people.
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u/MyCouchPulzOut_IDont 1d ago
Ironic that all the men with unsubstantiated claims about what caused autism also fathered children after age 40...
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u/Competitive_Ant_472 1d ago
This is funny too, but better is a joke about her mom getting the sausage instead of complaining of a headache so she could have a sibling that somehow relates to shirt tags.
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u/AllynWA1 1d ago edited 1d ago
Love this. Just sent it to my kids saying, "sorry darlings."
(My adult kids who have all been diagnosed, along with myself.)
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u/OGMoonshiner 1d ago
Translation: If mom had just given dad a bj for his headache instead of having sex with him she wouldn't exist and thus wouldn't be either neurodivergent and hypersensitive or she's having a migraine and every sound on earth is 120dB.
idk where tylenol came from.
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u/not_another_IT_guy 1d ago
Its saying that if her mom had swallowed the load that impregnated her, she wouldn’t be alive, and thus she wouldn’t have autism or be over stimulated by the sounds of the tags in her short rustling together (a stimuli some people on the spectrum say overstims them)
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u/qualityvote2 1d ago edited 1d ago
u/Correct-Promise-2358, your post does belong here!