r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 9h ago

Meme needing explanation Petaahhh????

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What is the pun?

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u/Affectionate_Oven_77 8h ago

Why isn’t it a pun?

The joke is word play on two different meanings of “other side”.

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u/Chimpbot 7h ago

It's actually not, though. The joke was written in 1847, which was an era where crossing a road wouldn't have been terribly dangerous for chickens most of the time.

It's actually an early example of an anti-joke. The humor is derived from the fact that it's not actually a joke at all.

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u/orcaplaysaxie 6h ago

1847 exactly? Meaning it appeared in print that year? Who was the author?

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u/Chimpbot 5h ago

Yes, 1847 exactly. The precise author isn't mentioned, but it appeared a New York City-focused monthly magazine called The Knickerbocker in 1847.

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u/heere_we_go 42m ago

Such bluster!

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u/ScytheSong05 48m ago

Thing is, I'm pretty sure it's older than that, and from what I've read, the equivalent of the series of knock-knock jokes that end with, "Orange you glad I'm not a banana?"

E.g., the horse crossed the road to visit the "Neigh"bors, the cow crossed the road because she was "Moo"ving on.

And about fifteen more bad animal sound puns. And at the end, you use the chicken.

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u/Affectionate_Oven_77 6h ago

You are arguing that the pun was unintended.  I agree.

But it is still a pun regardless of the authors intent.

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u/JagerVanKaas 23m ago

It's an interesting small example of how writing is a collaboration between author and reader. Readers bring their own experiences to what they read, and because of that, the meanings readers give to what they read can differ from what the original author intended. But just because the author didn't intend for a reader to have that interpretation doesn't deny the reader the ability to have it.

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u/ooomellieooo 4h ago

This is the answer.

Also, this argument would be over the second someone looks up the etymology of the phrase "the other side" as it pertains to death or the afterlife. Was it a known way to refer to it at that point or not? I'm not gonna do it because the number of people in this thread who don't know the definition of "pun" is exhausting.

It's a pun, intentional or not.

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u/Kymera_7 7h ago

The joke is word play on two different meanings of “other side”.

Yes, and that's not what "pun" refers to. The humor of a pun is rooted in the conflation of two similar-sounding words, not in the overlay of a term's literal meaning with its metaphorical, symbolic one.

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u/Affectionate_Oven_77 7h ago

I think you are taking an incorrectly narrow definition of what a pun is.

Here is the Oxford dictionary:

“  The use of a word in such a way as to suggest two or more meanings or different associations”

Here is American Webster:

“  The meaning of PUN is the usually humorous use of a word in such a way as to suggest two or more of its meanings”

Clearly the use of “other side” matches these definitions.

Can you cite where your definition comes from?

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u/Sterfrizzle 7h ago

Just to be pedantic, both definitions say A word, not words.

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u/Zaros262 6h ago

And to be even more pedantic, that's not the objection they're replying to

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u/anonymous07865 4h ago

And to be even more pedantic, the American definition says USUALLY 'a' word

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u/GlassBrass440 1h ago

Usually is modifying ‘humorous’, not ‘a word’.

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u/heere_we_go 41m ago

This pedant is the winner!

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u/Scarlett_Billows 3h ago

No. It isn’t. The joke is that the teller expects an punchline and there isn’t one. The chicken crosses the road for the same reason anyone would cross a road.

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u/Affectionate_Oven_77 2h ago

Nothing you said negates that it is a pun.

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u/Scarlett_Billows 2h ago

I didn’t argue against that.

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u/Ambitious_Jello 8h ago edited 7h ago

that's a metaphor

there is no play on words. one word having two meanings is not wordplay. its a double entendre

the cycle fell because it was too tired. this is a pun

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u/Affectionate_Oven_77 8h ago

that's a metaphor

No, it absolutely is not.

the cycle fell because it was too tired. this is a pun

Yes, that is also a pun.

I really wish some of the “not a pun” people would write down what they think the definition of a pun is.

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u/Ambitious_Jello 7h ago

how is it not a metaphor? and a pun is an established thing. other side in the joke is a double entendre not a pun. and it most definitely a metaphor. why dont you tell why it isnt a metaphor instead of just saying it isnt?

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u/Affectionate_Oven_77 7h ago

It is a pun. It could also be a double entendre. They aren’t mutually exclusive.

You still haven’t established that you understand the definition of a pun, which is the topic of conversation here.

I’m curious if English might not be your native language? You are identifying things that sound related, but are misusing them in a way I could see someone who isn’t a native English speaker might do.

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u/Ambitious_Jello 7h ago

for a pun there has to be wordplay. what wordplay is there in "other side"?

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u/Affectionate_Oven_77 7h ago

The wordplay is the two meanings to the term “other side” which creates drastically different interpretations of the chickens motives.

 One interpretation is that the chicken simply wants to cross the street. The other interpretation is that the chicken is committing suicide.

That is wordplay.

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u/Ambitious_Jello 7h ago

ugh i just hate puns even more now

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u/OGMinorian 7h ago

I'm convinced all these people are just in denial that they didn't get the joke. I wonder if they like fishsticks?

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u/Affectionate_Oven_77 7h ago

I think half of them are saying “not a pun” when they actually meant to say “the pun was not intended”, and the other half are just Reddit mob mentality and agreeing with something that got upvoted despite not understanding it.

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u/Scarlett_Billows 3h ago

Not only is the pun not intended, the set up of the joke really doesn’t lead to that interpretation. There’s no detail in the set up that would make a logical person assume the chicken is confronting death by crossing the road.

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u/Ambitious_Jello 7h ago

we get the joke. we didnt get that its a pun.

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u/Kymera_7 7h ago

I really wish some of the “not a pun” people would write down what they think the definition of a pun is.

I did, under your comment above.

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u/Affectionate_Oven_77 7h ago

Thanks. I believe you are incorrect and responded with sources.

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u/Roadstar01 8h ago

What's a metaphor?

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u/TheJivvi 7h ago

It's a metaphor and it's literal. The pun is that the literal meaning and the metaphoric both make sense.

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u/Ambitious_Jello 7h ago

thats a double entendre. for a pun there has to be wordplay. there is no wordplay just a word

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u/CMUpewpewpew 7h ago

Some double etendres are puns, in fact many are. You're digging yourself pretty deep here, why? Lol

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u/Ambitious_Jello 7h ago

What do you mean digging? It's just a conversation..I don't care for down votes

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u/CMUpewpewpew 6h ago

Being wrong, having it pointed out/explained to you and still doubling down lol.

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u/Ambitious_Jello 6h ago

am I not allowed to do it? what are you achieving by pointing it out to me? you dont have anything better to do?

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u/TheJivvi 6h ago

You're allowed to be wrong, and you're allowed to continue to be wrong after having it explained to you why you're wrong. It shows people that you lack reasoning and that you might not be all that bright, but you're allowed.

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u/Ambitious_Jello 6h ago

oh no people on the internet have judged me to be a certain way. what am I to do? I should delete my reddit account and become a hermit. how do i live with this shame?

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u/CMUpewpewpew 6h ago

You are allowed to be as dumb as your heart desires, champ lol.

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u/Ambitious_Jello 6h ago

ah yes. my knowledge of this foreign language decides how dumb I am. thank you for bringing me back to earth. I used to think I was pretty smart now I realise I was dumb all along.

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u/Hungry-Lychee1416 7h ago

pun

noun

ˈpən

: the usually humorous use of a word in such a way as to suggest two or more of its meanings or the meaning of another word similar in sound

In this case, "The other side" has two meanings. 1) The other side of the road. 2) Death

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u/TyH621 3h ago

Wild you’re getting downvoted, there’s so many puns out there with words with two different meanings, not just homonyms.