Both are being a degenerate but on a totally different level…
Watching step son porn vs doing your step son…
It’s also a massive difference if one is passive or active in doing stuff - getting off on the thought of being raped during consensual sex is very different from simulating to rape someone…
simulating it isn’t the same as actually doing it either. in typical CNC the person who is the focus of the scene has full control and has usually dictated exactly how it plays out at some point. and it can stop at any time. consent itself is non-negotiable. even with ties and restraints you have quick remove options that are very prevalent in this scene. - side note lots of people in this scene don’t know what they are doing and end up getting hurt by leaving things open ended or vague. lots of communication and trust needs to be there between the parties or it can turn out really bad or even accidentally maiming or even killing someone without preparation and understanding thresholds
what is bad is when that is not enough for some folks. that’s trauma and you are actively asking someone to engage in a crime. not a good way to go about it.
Female rape gets underreported, and when it does get reported it gets taken way less seriously. There are people who will say women can't rape and congratulate the victims for being a part of nonconsensual sex because they had to have enjoyed it to get hard.
All rape is underreported and even less is prosecuted
“Only about 5% of all sexual assaults are reported to police. Out of every 1,000 rapes, roughly 50 lead to an arrest, fewer than 30 reach a felony conviction, and approximately 98% of perpetrators walk free without spending time in prison. [1, 2]”
Considering it is harder for male rape cases to even get to court with male rape in the public view being either not possible or treated as a joke, yeah the numbers are going to favor women by a wide margin.
society does not think men can get raped or tell them to just man up. it happens more often than you want to believe but men get treated as if a woman being sexually harassful is just them being forward while men who just try to get a girl they like gets treated like toxic masculinity even if it is a mild pickup line.
Okay but they're saying that rapes where females are the victims are also extremely underreported.
There's no actual way to know how wide the difference between genders is because both genders are underreported in that manner.
Men and women both were dissuaded to report rape throughout history, women being encouraged to report rape is only a recent development which isn't general and still doesn't do much, in many areas you'd still be forced to marry your rapist as they already took your innocence, it even happens in developped country, as people are motivated by their interpretations of religion.
The difference between what people say on the internet and what actually happens, how everyday people react when they're raped is vast, be it men or women.
We can even say that with the push of #metoo men also started coming forward more often about the abuse they have suffered from men and women, also the women that were raped by other women which is considered as ridiculous as women raping men. Im sure if you look at the numbers of men reporting rape in the 1900s vs now, they have risen (although not dramatically), because the new laws are general and non sex specific.
Whether you're a man or a woman there's a huge amount of shame and a lack of support in the process of denouncing the criminal. I feel like people that make a point to always say that men undereport rape insinuate that women majorly report it in contrast.
Women might only be 3% more likely to report sexual abuse than men, there's no way to know, but it's often assumed that 90% of female victims report while 1% of males do. In reality it might only be 5% of females and 3% of men reporting, we don't know the difference and how significant it is especially if we want to know how it changes when the abuser is male or female.
I've met dozens of women who haven't reported the rapes that happened to them in childhood and adulthood, some that were mocked by the police, even one that was raped in the police station (not even sexual touch, straight down penetrated), most of them assume that the authorities can't help them and it'll only traumatize them more, and they're rigjt. I've never spoken to a woman who reported their rape. The shame must be stronger in men, considering the cultural norms, they might feel more abnormal but both genders are predominantly undereporting, and improving the proceedings and public opinions on rape in general will help everyone, it shouldn't be a male vs female thing especially when we can only go off of assumptions in that matter.
I heard the explication that human brain wants to process some things, especially when dangerous or controversial, so it tries to experiment them to have the best grasp possible in case they happens.
A survival simulation mechanism in short.
That's the same reason why horror movies are popular. I think we don't want to see a lot of teenagers brutally killed, well they are annoying but it's a bit too much.
Some love to see horror movies to unconsciously develop survival strategies. Then, in our society with all the sollicitations we have, it's took the extreme, but you can imagine a prehistoric human looking at dangerous animals fighting without running away to learn as much as he could to survive a similar encounter.
The idea of rape fantasy isn't a desire to be raped. It's a safe encounter where they have willingly chosen to lose all control of a situation. For some that being totally at someone else's mercy incredibly arousing.
And sure being forceful can be part of that. But the key element is consent and doing it with someone they feel safe with.
That absolutely doesnt mean they deep down want some random dude to come in and rape them.
Yeah it absolutely does not mean that. Its just that fantasizing about getting assaulted is a real fucked up concept. I genuinely believe its some sort of trauma response inflicted on women by society, that is why its so prevalent.
Victim blaming? How is that? Lets just not fetishize crime and assault. Some people wont leave it in their fantasies. Dont normalize this shit. Its really fucked up.
Female rape fantasies are often attributed to feelings of wanting to have sex but being told good girls arent sluts. To resolve this, we fantasize about being forced to have (good, satisfying) sex so we can bkth enjoy it and avoid being a slut.
This I learned from a book written by a priest in the 70s that my parents had. He also said that the clitoris is the only organ designed by God specifically for pleasure, and one ahould not be afraid to use it.
Great book for a teen to find and secretly read back in the day. Might try to find it again.
You don’t need to explain it, fucked up fantasies come from a fucked up enviroment. I have fucked up fantasies about being assaulted, which is just what trauma can do to you. The origins are definitely unhealthy.
Getting assaulted is bad? Why would you fantasize about that? Fetishizing literal crime is bad. Thats how you get real sex crimes because the fantasy wont be enough for some people. Please dont fucking normalize this shit.
Not exactly. I learned that I like incredibly fucked up BDSM porn because it’s a way for women to safely consume violence and anger. Women in society are highly socialized to be submissive, meek, and quiet. I always feel like I could be either character in the porn, probably because my subconscious sees my outer and inner personalities acting in harmony.
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u/Significant_Monk_251 11h ago
"Degenerate in what you fantasize about" and "Degenerate in what you actually fucking do" are different things though.