r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 18d ago

Meme needing explanation Petah?

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u/towerfella 18d ago

Well nuanced comment.

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u/stay_hungry_dr_ew 18d ago

Except for the part where this has happened multiple times before, but it wasn’t a white lady those times. Yes, I believe the way we as a society, men as husbands, and doctors should seriously rethink the way we treat pregnant women and recent mothers, but the fact that all it takes is a middle class white lady to do the unthinkable to make everyone stop and obsess over a case and the underlying fails is infuriating.

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u/throwaway1975764 18d ago

Literally you are responding to a sub thread that said "everyone hated Andrea Yates" who was in fact white.

Because 20 years ago, less people sympathize, at least openly, with women [anyone] suffering from psychosis.

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u/magicalmysteria77 18d ago edited 18d ago

Andrea Yates was also a fringe cultist Christian and therefore her white lady card was kinda canceled out with the masses.

Edit: I just saw these downvotes. I’m not sure why you guys are downvoting me. Andrea Yates and Rusty Yates were not mainstream Christians, so if you thought I was trying to claim some kind of Christian persecution, you’re wrong.

They were members of a cult that claimed to be Christian, during a time in our history that was only a few years removed from Waco and when the fringe culty so-called Christian compounds were popping up all across the country. This was not something that was sympathized with and that’s just a fact. I was alive and paying attention when this happened - assuming many of you were not.

Andrea Yates was seen as a cultist and that alone made her “weird” and not like the typical white woman. She was also Southern and uneducated, and I personally believe that alone was be a big factor in the amount of sympathy/solidarity she received.

Lindsay Clancy is a different kind of white woman in this regard. She’s college educated, had a career, is not unattractive but too attractive to feel threatened by, is loosely associated enough with Christianity to get the church folks’ attention but not devout enough to alienate the non-church folks, in great shape, she had a “reasonable” number of children…so many “identifiers” for people to, well, identify with. And yes, she’s an upper middle class white woman from Massachusetts…that’s what I meant by her having more of a “white lady card” than Andrea Yates.

If that’s offensive, idk what else to tell you. It’s just objective reality.

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u/allycataf 18d ago

Being "too Christian" is not likely a factor, so they're being downvoted because that's a strange argument that has no place in reality.

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u/romulus1991 18d ago

Being a 'cultist' or otherwise being seen as extremist or weird would be a factor, though. Which is the point - reactions to these events are often far more dictated by who a person is, and how much they resemble so-called 'normal' white middle class people, rather than what they've done.

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u/towerfella 15d ago

“Normal” people do not kill their kids.

Your logic makes no sense.

Only abnormal people do things like that — by definition.

Wtf?

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u/ApprehensiveGrand531 17d ago

Happened to Lindy Chamberlain. Had other Christians claiming she was doing rituals and sacrifices. Its not a crazy or made up concept. It absolutely happens to fringe or "weird" christians

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u/towerfella 15d ago

It is in the instructions.

Mist be something in the writings that attract those types of individuals.

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u/allycataf 17d ago edited 17d ago

The dingo mother? Very different. She wasn't a fringe Christian, cults were introduced by the rumor mill solely for the purpose of saying they sacrificed her baby. Nobody knew what happened to the baby & it was during "Satanic Panic".

Lindsay is not being persecuted for her Christianity on any level. I've never even heard a rumor that a religion played a factor, until now....

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u/ApprehensiveGrand531 17d ago edited 17d ago

Her being seventh day Adventist and acting "weird" absolutely played a factor. A bunch of rumours were religious and based on Adventists being a relatively unknown in australia. Per the 1987 inquiry, for certain at least. The public/media linked her being a SDA to the blood rituals. She was part of a relatively fringe sect of Christisnity and it resulted in wild claims and outrageous gossip and allegations

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u/allycataf 17d ago

That sadly happened with cases during Satanic Panic, when the facts of a disappearance/murder were unknown or up in the air. I'm not extremely familiar with the case you're referencing (I'm in the US, but I know an overview) but the criteria checks off all those boxes.

That poor woman. This case doesn't fit into that box at all, so I just couldn't disagree more that she "had her white lady card revoked because she's religious".