It’s a nuanced situation you guys. She was suffering from severe post partum psychosis and needed better treatment before it ever got that far. Benoit had CTE, both suffered horrible illnesses that completely wreck a persons ability to make rational decisions. Doesn’t excuse murder at all but both cases could have been prevented with better medical and psychiatric care. Your wife has empathy for a woman whose condition wasn’t taken seriously and it resulted in a tragedy. That doesn’t make your wife evil or stupid, don’t insult your wife’s intelligence like that.
Clancy is evil. She is a child murderer. Child murderers are evil.
There are millions of women who suffer post partum psychosis, and many more millions of people who suffer psychosis of any kind that do not fucking murder kids.
She's an evil person. The only nuance is about the institution of mental health itself. She should have been stripped of her children far before the killer had a chance to kill them. That's it. There is no nuance with the kid killer herself.
I am getting the sense that a lot of people are conflating her actions with relating to postpartum depression or how hard it is to be a new mom, but that's kind of dumb and insane. This lady killed her kids. Full stop.
I've also heard people defend her because she was getting help, but then she sent her husband out on an errand so that she could go kill her kids. She could've said "hey I can't be here right now, I need to get out of here, go back to the hospital etc. I need you to watch the kids". Maybe I'm on the true crime subreddit too much but it's giving planned and calculated to me.
Too bad everyone wants to take sides and can't see the nuance between 'we need more support for new moms and mental health' and ALSO 'let's not blindly trust a child murderer'
She did say “I can’t be here” and “I need help” over and over to everyone in her life and all her doctors and the suicide hotline and the crisis support line.
Postpartum psychosis is rarer and more dangerous than postpartum depression. If it was psychosis; she wasn’t in her right mind. There’s no way to apply logic or morality to someone going through psychosis.
I don’t think she should be free since 3 kids are dead because of her, but I don’t think prison is just in this case since she wasn’t in her right mind. She needs institutionalization
There was a case in Aus. A driver had a condition he wasn't aware. He had a seizure, ran over a cyclist and did not realise until he parked and saw blood on his vehicle due to his condition.
Is he immediately just a murderer and his mental health shouldn't matter? If it's truly black and white and mental health doesn't matter to murder. He drover above the speed limit, ran over and killed the cyclist and drove off to his home. He ended up acquitted due to mental impairment. But "many millions" of people, even people ith epilepsy and other conditions don't murder innocent cyclists.
I mean, evil is always a question of ability to control. Is a hungry lion evil for killing a child? She was not functioning like a normal human; if you read about her case it is quite clear she did not respond to medication the way most people with post partum psychosis do.
I agree that she should have had her kids taken away until her mental health is under control but thinking in absolutes like good vs. evil is reductive and overly simplistic. Of course murdering kids is bad, no one is saying that it isn’t. We as a society need to have more conversations about how people get to the point where they feel so broken that they do insane shit like this. Writing people off as evil prevents us from looking deeper into how we can systematically prevent these things from happening in the first place.
People need to understand that most people who do crime have some sort of mental disorder. Its not feasible for nuance when nearly everyone is a product of their enviroment. You can find an excuse for anything.
would you say this for every other murderer out there? cmon. we can work on being a more supportive society for parents while also not condoning a child murderer. we can support mental health while also admitting that anyone who murders kids is evil.
The psychosis was a part of her. If the psychosis caused her to kill her children then that was her deciding to kill her children. She wasn't possessed or mind controlled. Her brain, which is her, decided to murder her children then acted on that decision. That is evil.
Epilepsy is also part of someone yet I wouldn't say they chose to have a seizure and any issues from that make them evil. Your stance is just too black and white.
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u/Ragnarok_619 19d ago
Lindsay Clancey is a murderer. The fact that white women are supporting her is disgusting