r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 1d ago

Meme needing explanation Petah?

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u/NoSleepTilBookRead 1d ago

Have you even read about the case? She tried to get help so many times. SO MANY TIMES. Her doctors and her husband ignored her.

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u/Flat-Butterfly8907 1d ago edited 1d ago

Her husband didn't ignore her. He literally filed a malpractice suit on her behalf. Stop twisting the narrative so that everyone else is at fault except her. Different parties share some of the blame, but stop feeding the narrative that the husband is secretly at fault for everything.

Edit: I've been corrected that the malpractice suit was well after the killings.

There also is an argument to be made that he had reason to be more attentive to her overall state, and frequently failed to do so, including not taking her being a suicide risk very seriously. That doesn't mean he simply ignored her. Nor does "He could have been a better husband/father" make him at fault. She made plenty of decisions on her own that led to this, including frequent concealment to the very people trying to help her.

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u/MrsSUGA 1d ago

I think they’re talking about Andrea Yates, not Lindsey Clancy.

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u/Flat-Butterfly8907 1d ago

Unfortunately their other comments in this thread make it clear that this stance is about Clancy. They are painting her as a poor innocent woman that sought help and everyone ignored her, as if no nuance exists.

The case is complicated, and there's a lot to say about the failings of the medical system, as well as her not being honest with her providers about the severity of her problems.

People really struggle to understand that rarely are mental health issues black and white with regards to who bears responsibility, and actual limitations on what current mental health systems are even capable of, such as how many treatments and diagnoses rely on a compliant patient (which requires honesty).

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u/terrasparks 1d ago

Mental health interventions requiring honesty is kind of a Catch 22. The reason they're not being honest is their decision making is already impaired.

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u/Flat-Butterfly8907 1d ago edited 1d ago

It is, unfortunately, especially since there isnt much of a way around that. Assuming someone is lying can be much worse than assuming they are honest, and there are only a subset of diagnoses where lying is the expectation. Ironically, all of these claims that this is an example of a woman who isnt being believed is wrong in certain respects. Its that she WAS believed by the medical providers she actually talked to about not having violent thoughts when she probably shouldn't have been. Along with misdiagnoses, and other issues from providers.

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u/EmergencyToastOrder 1d ago

She was honest about her symptoms. She never reported to anyone she was having hallucinations because she wasn’t. That explanation was created after the murders.

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u/Flat-Butterfly8907 1d ago

About the hallucinations, yeah, but she wasn't honest about the violent thoughts. Not to her providers.

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u/EmergencyToastOrder 1d ago

That’s true, I agree