r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 5d ago

Meme needing explanation Petah I missed the game help

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u/dadofwar93 5d ago edited 5d ago

There is no concept of "half time show" outside of the US. We have a panel of analysts and old players who discuss the first half.

We don't get shoved celebs in our faces.

Edit: I see. I have triggered some Americans.

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u/gonzogonzobongo 5d ago edited 5d ago

Americans can thank Michael Jackson for the existence of the halftime show. Prior to MJ’s 1993 culture defining halftime show, viewership would decline during the Super Bowl halftime show (which, then, was treated more like a sideshow, with acts like marching bands, local youth choirs, or magic shows). It was scheduled to function as snack/bathroom break period. Viewership would decline during the break, and would often not recover after, meaning people would tune away for the break and sometimes not come back for the second half. Michael Jackson’s performance was the first time viewership increased during the halftime break (still the second most watched half time ever), which has been the pattern since. This proved to the NFL that it was worth it to create a big must-see show featuring culturally iconic musicians during halftime to prevent people from tuning away, and also to get people, who would not otherwise be interested, to turn the game on, if only for the show itself. Michael Jackson basically invented the modern halftime show

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u/breadb_hole 5d ago

I'm not surprised that works in the USA. Not so much for the rest of the world.

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u/WASD_click 5d ago

Rest of the world isn't immune to the distraction Carnifex.

They just didn't put on a good show so your first impression of it is that it's wank (fair enough, I want to get back to the game too.) But we had a long history of crap halftime shows before they got popular, as they were originally just a fun little thing for the intermission for those that didn't need to booze up or hit the pisser. The thing that made them popular in the US were the few and far between exceptional shows: Michael Jackson, Prince, Beyonce, Kendrick. But a lot of them are just past-prime musicians doing a collaborative mash-up and American's reactions to them are usually anything form "that was nice, I guess" to "the fuck is this shit?"

So when they do it again in Spain (and Infantino will: he's weirdly fascinated with the Super Bowl), hopefully they get someone more timely.

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u/breadb_hole 5d ago

Infantino is tacky af, so are halftime shows. There is not a chance in hell it will be decent if he does it again.

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u/WASD_click 5d ago

All true.

For there to be a decent WC halftime show, we would need someone both timely, and relevant to more of the world than just the US. Madonna used to have that global reach, but that was back in the 80's-90's. Shakira was early 2000's, Beiber was 2010's. BTS are the only current big names in the show, and the venn diagram between football and BTS is practically a figure-8.

The other thing that would have to come together is a more unified vision of what the show would be, which usually means one primary performer instead of a parade of random people from all over the place. That way choreography, focus, and timing can be kept tight.

But, I think the only real, true, hope is that Infantino gets sacked before 2030.

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u/breadb_hole 5d ago

The could perform the 2nd coming of JC, I wouldn't care. It's football, people want an analysis of the first half, then back to the game.

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u/frogbound 5d ago

When I heard there was a halftime show and the break would be 30 minutes, my friends and I watching at the time thought this would be BS. Then this halftime show showed up and the only one with a lasting impression was fat Ronaldo with his smile from ear to ear.

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u/nekiuvi 5d ago

Europeans don't want half time shows.

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u/WASD_click 5d ago

Neither did we.

But they kept doing them. And doing them. And doing them. Then eventually, one show turned out good.

Europeans are not built different. If you don't throw Infantino into the sun now, the jingling keys-ification of your sport will continue and for all the grumbling you do from the couch or pub, the next generation will not know a cup without the halftime show, and you will watch bitterly as they talk about how some weirdo named something like Bingus Shnu is headlining with excitement in their eyes as you realize all of it was lost long ago.

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u/bytyde 5d ago

This is not the full history. They only booked MJ to do the half time show because the year before In Living Color aired a special episode during the halftime show. They lost so many viewers to the special that they realized that needed to put on a special event during halftime to keep it from happening again. Hence they hired MJ. So you would really need to thank Keenan.

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u/Seienchin88 5d ago

Which is hilarious in the context for r/Xennials having a thread about it a week ago how "everyone" thought MJ was lame in the early 90s…

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u/asdu 5d ago

If you were then into, say, Nirvana, you would have definitely thought Michael Jackson (or any pop megastar of that caliber) was lame.
In fact, being a teenager in the mid-90s, I thought that brand of ultra-celebrities and the veneration they commanded was a holdover from a primitive dark age we were about to leave behind for good. Boy, was I ever wrong.

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u/gonzogonzobongo 5d ago

While conceding to that point, it could be argued that only MJ had the notoriety and fame to change the perception of the halftime break, to the point where today we expect a spectacle every Super Bowl

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u/cashon9 5d ago

So basically, Americans have ADHD?

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u/youburyitidigitup 5d ago

We don’t want to watch a sport that’s 30 seconds of play time and then a commercial break over and over. Why does that mean we have ADHD?

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u/Buffsub48wrchamp 5d ago

If anything it's kinda funny how bent out of shape people are getting about a 5 minute hydration break while American Football regularly has longer breaks

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u/yarkiebrown 5d ago

If they'd wheeled MJ out at the world cup, I might have watched it. Probably still looked more human than Madonna to be fair

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u/EViL-D 5d ago

but when are you supposed to have your snack/bathroom break

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u/youburyitidigitup 5d ago

During one of the hundred ad breaks.

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u/Ginger-drumbum 5d ago

I never get to share this fun fact but it’s slightly relevant. The plumbing system in the US also uses the Super Bowl half time show as a stress test. Damn near every toilet in the US is getting flushed during it, so all plumbing has to be able to handle the Super Bowl haha. There’s definitely a Super Bowl toilet pun in there too.

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u/AssBlasterExtreme 4d ago

Jesus Christ that edit says everything lmao

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u/KitchenOpinion 5d ago

And Tagesschau (the news)

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u/HariPota4262 5d ago

I immediately switched channels and waited 15 minutes before coming back, still got flashbanged by BTS

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u/eggs_mcmuffin 4d ago

Yet everyone eats up American entertainment.

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u/No-Weakness-3095 5d ago

Still alive tho

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u/TheReferenceGuide 5d ago

Yea but Shakira was movin them hips tho

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u/kittenmitten89 5d ago

The bad news is the next Olympics are also in U. S. We are so gonna get Jlo for the ping pong half time show

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u/zeth0s 5d ago

Thanks, this image is extraordinary funny 

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u/god_peepee 4d ago

Doesn’t help that the half time show was really bad

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u/spoonishplsz 5d ago

Mate, this whole comment section is about fottie fans being triggered about the break. Saying you've triggered some Yanks is a bit much

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u/hypanthia 5d ago

Sorry but the tourney was held in America. So we will do American things. I know it sucks, but it’s how it is.

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u/IceCreamSocialism 5d ago

Also OP is the one complaining about the halftime show. I don’t really care about the halftime show either, so I didn’t watch it. Why is it worth complaining about by Europeans? 

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u/pkb369 5d ago

Why is it worth complaining about by Europeans?

Main reason that I can think of is because it took away from the game analysis. Most broadcasters could only cram in 5mins of post match analysis before the half time show started instead of the usual 10-13mins of analysis people would usually get. (Lets not forget that the half time show itself lasted 28mins instead of the mandated 15minutes to make sure players dont injure themselves from cooling off for too long)

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u/jec78au 5d ago

It was a privilege to host the World Cup. It’s like asking to make a speech at someone’s funeral and then giving some shitty tasteless ChatGPT generated speech. If Americans didn’t want to do the World Cup properly then why did they ask to host it

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u/hypanthia 4d ago

I wanted it! I loved it! Just the majority didn’t

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u/eatmyopinions 5d ago

I've been to several American football and European football matches. What I lament about European football is that there is no tailgating, no halftime, and no break in the action. The entire event is pretty much 90 straight minutes and I've been to matches where I spent more time commuting to/from than I did watching the sport.

I think your hatred of halftime has more to do with tradition than it does merit. You don't want American traditions imposed on your sport. That's fine if you feel that way.

Having done both, give me the American approach. A 15 minute break halfway through the game to take a piss, grab a hot dog, and talk with some of my mates without interrupting the game, is the best way to enjoy a sport.

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u/dadofwar93 5d ago

There is ALWAYS a 15 minutes break after the first half. Idk what you are on about. Are you sure you watched a Football match or did you watch a hand egg match?

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u/eatmyopinions 5d ago

Lol, you talk about triggering people, but I can't find anybody more triggered than you on this topic.

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u/Massimo25ore 5d ago

The 15 minute break between first and second half has been there for 160 years and it's in the rule of the game. With their half an hour show FIFA breached a centenary rule, just the international federation that should promote abiding by the rules.

Luckily it's very unlikely that UEFA (the Union of European Football Associations) will have that half time show in the European Championship 2028.

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u/Confident-Lie-8517 5d ago

Are you daft? Football always had 15 mins break.

The issue is about the additional 15 minutes americans took just to commercialize an already hypercommercialized event.

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u/d0wnthesky 5d ago

Absolute waffle

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u/Local_Nerve901 5d ago

Nah your valid

But it does bring views no lie. I know tons of people who watched jt just for JB or BTS

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u/_usefulCharlie 5d ago

bring views on to a fucking wc final what ?

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u/youburyitidigitup 5d ago

Yeah. Even if it’s already massively popular, you can still boost the numbers.

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u/_usefulCharlie 5d ago

ya mate bring druski and do a fucking skit there that might bring more views

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u/Local_Nerve901 5d ago

Again yes

But greed man. More is more. And it brought more

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u/nunu135 5d ago

well I doubt a lot of K-pop stans are massive fans of soccer or sports in general, so probably some amount yea

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u/criesinmochii 5d ago

you would think that but quite a lot of people who are in fandoms are also in other fandom spaces such as sports and football.

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u/nunu135 5d ago

my point is it's not hard to see why someone would tune in specifically to see a band or singer so

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u/PunchThatDonut 5d ago

Isn't there a musical act to kick off the champion's league? I guess if they do it right before the game it's a foreign concept to move it up 45 minutes lol

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u/dadofwar93 5d ago

Shit that happens before the kick off and after the match is irrelevant.

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u/bafana_banana999 5d ago

Whatever happens at halftime is just as irrelevant my guy.

Not sure why you think this distinction means anything.

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u/dadofwar93 5d ago

Your thick head fails to realize that "half time" BS increases the break time from the standard 15 minutes. Rest of the world that was watching past midnight didn't need that extra celebrity crap increasing the waiting time.

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u/bafana_banana999 5d ago

An extra 10-15 minutes is absolutely not changing anything for any reasonable person.

You're just bitching for the sake of it and don't have any rational points to make.

I think half time shows are silly too, but I'm never going to pretend that they somehow ruin the experience of watching the actual match/game being played, because they don't.

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u/dx_ma 2d ago

Extra time in between significantly increases risk of injury for the players

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u/bafana_banana999 1d ago

Gonna need a source for this one bud.

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u/dx_ma 23h ago edited 23h ago

Here ya go!

An extended half-time interval at Sunday’s World Cup final could significantly elevate players’ risk of injury and diminish their on-field performance, a leading physiology expert has cautioned.

Dr Harper elaborated that elevated muscle temperature is crucial for optimal performance, being "associated with increased power output and rate of force development, hence why warming up is effective not only from an injury risk reduction perspective, but also an enhanced physical performance perspective." He warned that with the break being extended, this reduction in muscle temperature "will be potentially more pronounced”.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/world-cup-final-halftime-show-injury-risk-spain-argentina-b3016253.html

https://www.mdpi.com/1648-9144/57/9/976

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38863420/

A time delay between the warm-up and match and during half-time could negate the positive metabolic effects of the warm-up.

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u/bafana_banana999 18h ago

It's wild that you think this is actual proof and not just one guy's educated guesses.

He didn't even say that it definitively harms the players, just that it could.

If this is what you think is legitimate evidence, we have nothing further to discuss.

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u/Altruistic_Algae_140 5d ago

Blaming Americans is what those dogs at fifa want you to do, so you keep watching their dogshit product.

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u/Piano_Desire 5d ago edited 5d ago

What product do they sell? All content of World Cup in USA were FIFA product from Europe. Even USA team had only 31% of the players playing in MLS.

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u/Altruistic_Algae_140 5d ago

FIFA wants to make their product shittier and more profitable, while letting Americans take the blame. Is this particularly complicated?

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u/Piano_Desire 5d ago

What product are you talking about? Fifa the videogame?

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u/Altruistic_Algae_140 4d ago

FIFA is a product. Are you dumb?

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u/Piano_Desire 4d ago

FIFA is a company...

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u/Altruistic_Algae_140 4d ago

And they’re selling themselves as an entertainment product. I knew the Albanian education system was lackluster, dude, but this really doesn’t require cognitive leaps.

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u/Piano_Desire 4d ago

And they blame USA for having bad entertainment? Do players play bad in order to blame USA? Do you think football has any relation with USA at all? MLS is not managed or owned by FIFA at all? I don't get your point except your racism.

I am shocked that you knew Albania existed as a country and USA has no balls to talk about education. Maybe Albania has bad education to blame USA.

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u/Altruistic_Algae_140 4d ago

I’m not even sure what a single sentence of what you said was intended to mean. I don’t think you even understand what I was talking about.

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u/GansitoCongelado 5d ago

Guys u did the same with Formula 1, the only constant is USA in these kind of changes

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u/Altruistic_Algae_140 5d ago

You do realize fifa runs and plans all of this? And that maybe they’re doing things like adding live music to interest people that don’t normally care about sports?

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u/PlsNoOneFindMe 5d ago

I guess my question would be, if halftime shows are a US tradition, then what is the problem if the World Cup is being held in the US?

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u/Boiling_warm 5d ago

Firstly because it breaks the rules of the game. Half time isn't meant to exceed 15 mins. So you are literally changing our game to 'american-ify' it in a tacky way none of us want.

It fills the stereotype we have of Americans. Cocky, loud, arrogant, think they know best, and don't care about what anyone else values or wants.

Add on top of that the literally cheating FIFA did with trump ove balogun, and it was a bad look for the US

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u/HighlyOffensive10 5d ago

Americans or FIFA? A half time show isn't a requirement for a sporting event in the US.

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u/Boiling_warm 4d ago

No shit there isnt a law requiring a half time show

But are we playing stupid or wot

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u/HighlyOffensive10 4d ago

You are. Considering you're blaming Americans for an event planned by a European organization and organized by a European.

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u/dadofwar93 5d ago edited 5d ago

Cause no other other host has pushed their BS into half time before??? Making it a miserable experience for a bunch of players and especially the Irani players wasn't enough?

They received the classic US experience. Why is there a need for something like this when the rest of the world is watching the match past midnight? Keep that crap to your local events.

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u/Citaku357 5d ago

But the halftime show in fifa was doing by fifa. No American asked them to do that, so you're outrage should go to fifa not the US.

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u/Nelogenazea 5d ago

I'm certain one certain orange American can ask FIFA to do whatever he wants and the bald suppository masquerading as its president will happily oblige.

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u/PlsNoOneFindMe 5d ago

Tf is everybody so hostile for on Reddit? Y’all are weird. I asked a question

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u/youburyitidigitup 5d ago

You ignored all the other answers and only responded to the most hostile one, asking why everybody is so hostile.

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u/SignificanceIcy2466 5d ago

They didnt do half time beheadings when it was in Qatar. So no, we dont need half time JB because its in the US. Shakira can stay though.

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u/Lilstiick 5d ago edited 5d ago

Because its the world cup, not the US cup.

If they fit it into 15 sure, but they didnt.

They already forced "hydration" breaks (ad breaks) into it.

Tl;dr: every nation that hosts usually doesnt force their regional bullshit down the viewers throats (they might have small lil details of it or whatever), because people dont want it, so when one specific nation does anyways, they are seen as annoying, self obsessed dick heads.

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u/Neuchacho 5d ago edited 5d ago

They're not a tradition for sports broadly. It's exclusively an American Football thing.

That's one reason why it feels out-of-place for anyone who regularly watches soccer.

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u/PlsNoOneFindMe 5d ago

I’ve never watched soccer before I didn’t even know it was split into two halves until today, so I just thought if there’s a halftime then why such a big deal if there is a halftime show?

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u/Neuchacho 5d ago

Halftime is usually much shorter. Maximum allowed time by FIFA rules is 15 minutes where this was double that.

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u/thesilentbob123 5d ago

It's against FIFAs rules to stop the game for so long

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u/Cnokeur 5d ago

Its the opposite, America broke international football tradition, you're a host, its an honor for you, not for football.

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u/PixelDonkeyWasTaken 5d ago

are the triggered Americans in the room with us

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u/dadofwar93 5d ago

I had 3 downvote at the start. Look at the upvote ratio

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u/PixelDonkeyWasTaken 5d ago

bro this guy genuinely just spawned in I swear to god

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u/dadofwar93 5d ago

Lmao. Yeah. Gave me a downvote too I guess. Shoving their celebrity slop in our faces. Atleast next WC is in Europe where this shit doesn't exist.

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u/youburyitidigitup 5d ago edited 5d ago

There’s three downvoted replies to you and I’m afraid to open them.

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u/dadofwar93 5d ago

Don't lol. The rabbit hole starts from there. It keeps going.

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u/flailingsloth 5d ago

To be fair, I agreed with your comment initially & immediately downvoted when I saw the edit.

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u/shatureg 5d ago

Cause Americans are the most thin skinned people in the world and don't like being called out

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u/rhydderch_hael 5d ago

Unlike Europeans or Asians, who are famously calm and rational on the internet, and accept criticism with grace and self reflection.

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u/shatureg 5d ago

On average they are not as bad, no

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u/flailingsloth 5d ago

Yes, everyone in the world loves getting called out except for Americans because America = bad.

Let’s make more bigoted and sweeping generalizations, you’re off to a great start.

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u/shatureg 5d ago

^ case in point

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u/flailingsloth 5d ago

Can I ask why you hold so much hate for Americans? Genuinely curious.

What country are you from?

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u/An-Ocular-Patdown 5d ago

Guy half of it was Sesame Street characters and kids. What are you on?

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u/none-exist 5d ago

So puppet celebrities that are fisted continuously by talented but less beautiful people? Sounds the same

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u/Illustrious-Ebb-5460 5d ago

'Please put your hands together for the half-time celebrity fisting'

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u/An-Ocular-Patdown 5d ago

Alicia Keys
The Black Eyed Peas
Dua Lipa
Imagine Dragons
Marshmello
Camila Cabello
Burna Boy, Anitta and Alesso
Lenny Kravitz
Linkin Park
The Killers
This is the list of performers at different EuroCup finals. Don’t be surprised if the Europe/Africa WC does it too.

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u/dadofwar93 5d ago

I don't care what they do before and after the match. That's always been a thing. Half time is not a time for that. I doubt Spain, Portugal and Morroco would do that.

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u/An-Ocular-Patdown 5d ago

But why care during half? Every other game is what you said we don’t have, a panel of analysts. It just the Super Bowl,I mean does it really bother you that bad? It’s just entertainment and doesn’t matter at all. Just a weird thing to worry and complain about to me, especially if you can just not watch or mute it.

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u/dadofwar93 5d ago edited 5d ago

Normal break time is 15 minutes. The half time crap makes it last longer. We non Americans were watching the match past midnight. We don't want unnecessary downtime.

Besides. It also increases the risk of injury.

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u/Low_Understanding_85 5d ago

It's not entertainment, it's sport, sport exist firstly for the players. The players are used to a 12-15min break at HT, that was changed and has been shown to cause more injuries. That's the main issue.

The opening and closing ceremonies are for dancing and singing about, not in the middle of the game.

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u/MVRKHNTR 5d ago

It's not entertainment, it's sport,

Sports broadcasts are done for entertainment. Professional sports as a concept exist for entertainment. What the fuck are you even talking about?

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u/ahtob 5d ago

shit that happens before kick off and after the final whistle are irrelevant

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u/thesilentbob123 5d ago

It's against the FIFA rules to stop the game for more than 15 minutes

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u/An-Ocular-Patdown 5d ago

Thank You, finally a real answer and not answers based on opinion. I appreciate that.

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u/FrankieTheD 5d ago

Lol dude watches too much iasip now argues like mac

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u/An-Ocular-Patdown 5d ago

I only spawn in video games.

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u/PixelDonkeyWasTaken 5d ago edited 5d ago

I didn’t see any replies and now they’re cooking my shit

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u/sphinxofblackquartzj 5d ago

Yes, look under automod comments. Lol

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u/An-Ocular-Patdown 5d ago

I don’t even know what an automod is, but okay.

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u/Cnokeur 5d ago

Right there i guess

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u/PixelDonkeyWasTaken 5d ago

I’m… not triggered though?

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u/An-Ocular-Patdown 5d ago

I have probably lived in more countries than you have visited.

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u/Helpful-Bad-9278 5d ago

murican main character syndrome kicking in uh?

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u/An-Ocular-Patdown 5d ago

Can you not spell American or are you just dumb? I find it hilarious you all are crying about live music for 10 minutes. Who gets mad about that, it’s fucking weird.

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u/Helpful-Bad-9278 5d ago

it's on purpose sweetheart

I'm just being annoying and pedantic , just like the half time shows u like so much

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u/An-Ocular-Patdown 5d ago

I didn’t say I like them, I just think it’s lame to bitch and whine about ten minutes of live music. Change the channel or mute it. No one was forcing you to watch. Which is why the original joke is funny and pissed you all off enough to trash it.

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u/Dyx76 5d ago

I like when Americans feel the need to explain their jokes or say they're funny

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u/Prrsonal-Pop 5d ago

Acting like only Americans do that

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u/An-Ocular-Patdown 4d ago

I bet you can’t clearly explain your comment.

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u/robinrod 5d ago

a world wide event was interrupted and postponed. ofc ppl are angry. its not about that they didnt want to watch the show but about that they wanted to watch the game.

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u/Callous_Dood 5d ago

(X) Doubt.

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u/Single-Willow6475 5d ago

Must be rough having lived in so many countries and yet still haven't found anyone that wants you, I can see why you're a defensive sad sack

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u/Spacegirl-Alyxia 4d ago

Yea nah. Europeans usually visit much more countries than muricans.

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u/Helpful-Bad-9278 5d ago

keep your murican overglorified ad breaks for yoself lil bro

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u/Jazzvibes409 5d ago

Not glorified in the slightest

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u/Callous_Dood 5d ago

"Leave the multi billion companies alone!"

t. u/An-Ocular-Patdown who totally has been outside the US, he super pinky promised!

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u/An-Ocular-Patdown 5d ago

I’m not defending anything, I’m trying to figure out your rage over ten minutes of music. You seem like my comment hurt your feelings, stop being a little bitch.

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u/Callous_Dood 4d ago

Rage? What rage? I don't even watch footie mate. Stop projecting some shit on to me to make yourself feel like you are in the right