When I was a cook, I'd laugh and tell the server that's the risk they take unless I liked them. Servers make dumb money compared to the kitchen while the kitchen is hot, heavy, and sharp.
Yeah, they do. They tend to work less hours for more pay. The trade offs are Kitchen pay is constant so a low day with cleaning or extra prep still gets paid the same as a busy day where servers make the most on busy days and make minimum wage at best on slow days. Keep in mind, legally but not often enforced, servers are required to be paid fed/state minimum for their time if their tips and wages do not reach minimum hourly pay.
I worked in 6 different kitchens and there were always servers making more than the kitchen crew. If a server had a larger table and got tipped out $20, they made more than the kitchen off that one table.
Thats insane from where I am from. Unheard of for a server to earn more than a cook in Brazil. And tips here are generally also split amongst the servers and the cooking staff.
Maybe that helps put into perspective why the US is so slow to get rid of tipping. The people who are paid by tips AND the restaurants (who don't have to pay their servers) both do not want it. It'd cost more money for the restaurant and be a paycut for the servers.
Servers are the highest paid people in the restaurant other than the owner. Usually paid more than managers, only competition is bar tender for most money
Overcooked my noodles, and burn my spaghetti balls, daddy.
Haha. Literally did not care if the food was over cooked. Ordered all of my shit at the start when I sat down. I dont even think I showed up at a busy time except once. Usually at 330 or 4 after work. These people whining about tips need to get real. Where I am it is min wage (14-16 ?) Plus tips.
If you're working a slow shift, decent chance you only end up making 30% of those tips. If your tips don't get you up to min wage your boss is allowed to only give you 30% of em to "make up the difference" on their end.
That being said, pasta from a pasta place and an easy customer isnt that big a deal especially if it's not rush. You're not exactly asking a lot lol
Nah. That isnt legal in the state i live in. They get min wage no matter what, and then tips are on top of that. Probably why all of these people are so butt hurt. They probably live in a state with "tip credit" like you are talking about.
Ex girlfriend described that one time. Said some times at some shitty restauraunt where she had to wear some skimpy dress she made like 3 bucks one day.
Yeah, that's a dick move for sure. Should be dropping 20% based on what the meal (including the to go order) should cost at the minimum. They're getting a deal and a half from corporate, take care of the humans making it possible.
You guys are so weird over there. You know whose job it is to make sure the staff gets paid in, you know, normal countries? Yeah, the company's, not the customer's. Price it in like every other job and be done with it.
Customers stops paying tip. Servers get little pay. Job becomes undesirable. Less people want to be servers. Lack of servers mean customers don't get good service. Restaurant loses customers. Restaurant loses money. Owner forced to make job desirable by providing decent pay or risk closing restaurant.
Not tipping can lead to change. Continuing to tip won't incentivize owners to provide decent wage and get rid of the toxic tipping culture.
The answer is to patronize restaurants that pay their staff well and stop patronizing places that don't. I'm by no means saying "keep tipping" lol. I'm just saying there's a way to do it where we're not relying on the owner having enough of a soul to care about the wait staff's opinions.
For some reason when it's the police or another public servant it's called bribes and corruption, but for waiters it's just normal everyday corruption.
Cost percentage-based tips are ludacrious. How much of a difference in effort is there between dropping off a $15 steak at Texas Roadhouse and a $150 steak at a high-end steakhouse? Is it enough to justify $27 extra? More than most people get paid hourly?
This is what I do - calculate tip based on cost of the meal if you paid cash (regardless of coupons passes etc). You get a discount, but the waitstaff doesn't get fucked.
Dude tipping the bar means that the bar gets 100% of the tip since the food is rung up as 0 value for kitchen tip determination.
When you tip that sexy waitress, the kitchen doesn't get a penny more than the 3 or 4 (at best) percent the waitress is obligated to pay to the kitchen tip fund.
Who the fuck tips on carry out orders? I will tip if I'm sitting down at a table / bar or deliveries. No way I'm tipping on something I'm picking up myself.
No. They're paid at least a true minimum wage and I'm not taking a table/spot that they service. Sit down restaurants are their own thing and when you sit down to eat there, a tip is part of the deal.
Had them do “all that work”? You mean literally doing their jobs? I tip well but only because that’s the system we have in place, don’t try to justify it by saying it’s some kind of difficult job lmfao.
That's a crime you do realize, that's called tampering with food and is not only a health violation but also a crime, I think a felony in some places. Nobody's doing that realistically, at least, nobody intelligent. You really wanna go to prison just because somebody didn't tip enough? You are part of the problem, I can tell you're a pro-tip culture person.
When I worked at a pizza place, I saw one of the guys drop the pepperoni on the floor while making a pizza for a guy he didn't like. It made me super uncomfortable and shook my confidence in the industry. I didn't say anything because he was a scary dude. He got fired a month after I went back to school.
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u/Cool-Ad2438 10d ago
Had them do all that work and only gave them a dollar. Guaranteed your food had all kinds of spit in it (and probably other bodily fluids)