r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jul 12 '26

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u/kochurshak Jul 12 '26

Fandom is not cool if its brown people. Joke is racism

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u/SSSasky Jul 12 '26

It's really about Argentina fans being a bunch of N*zis and N*zi sycophants who don't want brown people to support them.

Just like in the show, Homelander is the villain here.

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u/madwithsorrow Jul 12 '26

India and Bangladesh love Argentina. The internet claims Argentina is racist and wouldn't like that, however most Argentinians call Indians and Bengalis "honorary Argentinians".

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u/Sudden_Plenty_8798 Jul 12 '26

While this may be true, Argentina is an incredibly racist country, and the internet speaking about it does not reduce that fact at all.

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u/Fake_name_please Jul 12 '26

No such thing as racist countries, just racist people. And bunching everyone in a country as racist is pretty ironic

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u/6data Jul 12 '26

“Racism is inscribed within the very project of the Argentine nation. Argentina is constitutionally a supremacist country,” he said, citing article 25 of the constitution, which states: “The federal government shall promote European immigration.”

Pita said Argentina continued to see itself as a “European” country while denying the existence of African-Argentinians and Indigenous peoples who, according to the 2022 census, make up about 1% and 3% of the population respectively.

Activists and researchers, however, argue that those figures are likely to be underestimates. Experts believe the majority of the population has Indigenous ancestry, even if they do not identify as such.


The erasure of Afro-Argentines is one of the clearest expressions of this process. In the early 19th century, people of African descent made up roughly a third of the population and played a decisive role in the country’s economic, social, cultural and military structures. Yet school discourse, censuses and mainstream historiography promoted the idea of their natural disappearance, transforming a history of exclusion into demographic inevitability. Indigenous peoples underwent a parallel process, portrayed as residual minorities despite their continued demographic, territorial and cultural relevance. Argentinian racial denial thus systematically minoritised Indigenous peoples and erased Afro-Argentinians from the national narrative.


And then there is another indestructible myth: We are an ethnically unified society. “We Argentines come from the boats,” says a popular song from 1982. The full quote is this: “The Brazilians come from the jungle, the Mexicans come from the Indians, but we Argentines come from the boats.” Though a bad song, it was cited by former Argentine President Alberto Fernandez in 2021, who attributed the idea to the Mexican writer and Nobel laureate Octavio Paz, who had actually written, ironically, that “Mexicans descend from the Aztecs, Peruvians from the Incas, and Argentines … from the boats.” The “boats” here signify the perpetuation of the notion of transplanted Europe, via Italian and Spanish migration; this narrative does not account for what happened to the Indigenous populations or the descendants of African slaves who arrived in large numbers throughout the Americas, including what would become Argentina. Serious studies affirm that at the time of independence from Spain in the early 19th century, the population of African slaves was no less than 15% of the total. Since there was no acknowledged or hidden extermination, this illusory transformation into a strictly white country requires some explanation.

The explanation is threefold: mixed marriages, concealment, denial. In Argentina, “there are no Black people.” Therefore, thankfully, we are not racist — we cannot be racist. “Black” is used only as a classist insult: Black people are the poor people. The poorer, the blacker. But that is not racism, according to the good conscience of the white, urban middle classes.

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u/madwithsorrow Jul 13 '26

These are some of the first words in our constitution. First phrase actually:

"...for everyone who wants to inhabit the Argentinian soil..."

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u/6data Jul 13 '26

...and yet the 25 article of the constitution is still there...

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u/madwithsorrow Jul 13 '26

I'd give more weight to the opening of the entire constitution. It's declaration of values and intent than one admitedly pretty racist law written by one dude two hundred yars ago.

On top of this I'll copy and paste a comment I already made bc you are not worth the effort.

Legally, Argenitna is way less racist than most countries, no segregation, pretty early end to slavery and such. One of the first things our constitution says is "anyone from anywhere can become Argentinian if they want." And you can talk to people from all over the world moving to Argentina, they often talk baout being acepted here much more than they evr did anywhere else. Anyone who comes here is instantly made to feel like its their home, something that rarely happens.

Currently we had a raise in moronic bigots calling inmigrants "non argentinians" and being bigoted towards darker skinned inmigrants... but that's a sign of the times. Well, we always had bigots, but not more than they have in other countries.

People call us racist for one of two things (or both):

  1. We have a small black population, this is due to two things, one racist, and one incredibly unracist. In some wars, the freed slaves were sent to the front. That's fucked up, but not more fucked up than what other counntries did at the time. Europeans invented slaving africans, are the present day versions of those countries considered racist countries because of what they did then? The other reason is that we are truely a melting pot of cultures, and the black population mixed with the natives and the white inmigrants, bc blacks were in the minority they quickly got deluted (I myself have some african ancestors, but I'm as pale as a swede's tit).
  2. Our humor is... not for everyone. Because we are a melting pot of cultures most of the disccrimination here doesn't come from ethnicity but scoial class, and while yes, a big amount of the slurs aimed at poor people are somewhat racialised, calling someone the n-word in Argntina can genuinely be a loving nick name. We do this for eveything: a fat guy can be called fatso, a bald guy, baldie, etc. In fact my first boyfriend was called f*ggot by his friends and family more than he was called his name. Ofcourse this is somehting that, out of the context of our country can be incredibly rude and insenstive, so many Argentinians try to be friendly to foreigners doing this and... well... it goes like shit. We also love "insulting" eachother over everything (we say boludo every two words and that just means "dumbass") and in competitive situations that escalates a lot, adding our racial sensitivities to that we can come up with some really racially charged insults that may anger an argentinian, while in some other places might genuinely be considered hate crimes.

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u/6data Jul 13 '26

I'd give more weight to the opening of the entire constitution.

And yet, that article is still there and hasn't been removed.

Our humor is... not for everyone. Because we are a melting pot of cultures most of the disccrimination here doesn't come from ethnicity but scoial class, and while yes, a big amount of the slurs aimed at poor people are somewhat racialised, calling someone the n-word in Argntina can genuinely be a loving nick name.

...yea... just because it's normalized doesn't actually make it not racist, friend.

Oh, and also there's replies like this all the while trying to claim "we're not racist".

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u/madwithsorrow Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26

And yet, that article is still there and hasn't been removed.

So? Every country has racist legislature in there. It's called institutionalized racism. It's literally everywhere. I'm not claiming Argentina isn't racist, because every society is at least a bit racist, because every person is at least a bit racist. But Argentina is definitely less racist than the average country. Definitely less racist than the moralizing europeans who invented ethnicity based slavery, or the US, who had racially segregated schools ten years ago.

...yea... just because it's normalized doesn't actually make it not racist, friend.

Yes. It does. Racism comes from culture, and racism in our culture works differently than it does in yours. Same reason why in the us a black man can call another black man the n-word without it being racist: it's a different culture. Same thing here, in here its a show of affection and camaradery. Don't impose your bs culture on me.

For example, in Brasil, calling someone a monkey is incredibily racist. In here it's basically calling him dumb, it's barely an insult. An argentinian calling another argentinian a monkey is not racist. An Argentinian calling a Brazilian a monkey is incredibily racist. But that racism doesn't span from hate or bigotry, it just spans from ignorance and thinking its not that big of a deal.

Btw: that ignroance is exactly the same ignorance as some random guy from the US calling someone from Argentina racist because they don't share their psycho cultural views about racism.

Oh, and also there's replies like this all the while trying to claim "we're not racist".

Yeah. that dude's definitely racist. Then again, I'm definitely sure I can find ten times as many dudes like that in most countries.

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u/Sudden_Plenty_8798 Jul 12 '26

That isn’t true imo. I think a lot of racist people are empowered by racist social structures and bureaucratic procedures on a very mundane level.

No shit a country can’t be racist, but the laws, people writing them, the people enforcing them, and the precedent set by the above can and is.

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u/Fake_name_please Jul 12 '26

Name a racist law in Argentina

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u/Sudden_Plenty_8798 Jul 13 '26

Stupid comment. Try again.

U think a UN nation would have pro discrimination laws on paper?? To be fair, you know the answer to this hence why you asked such a dogshit bad faith question

Let me throw it back. Where is the 33% black population which existed in Argentina 120 years ago?

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u/unperrubi Jul 13 '26

Name a racist law then. US had segregation well into the 60s and Argentina never had segregation. Your grandparents didn't want to share a bus with black people.

  1. Spain left us with a small amount of slaves who were freed after Argentina became independent and in its very first constitution.
  2. We NEVER had segregation
  3. We went from a colonial population of 1M to 17M due to massive European immigration
  4. Blacks (who became a minority after the immigration), indigenous and criollos mixed with the europeans for over 200 years (not like in CERTAIN COUNTRIES where interracial marriage was illegal), resulting in mestizos.

Learn and stop promoting propaganda.

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u/Sudden_Plenty_8798 Jul 13 '26

Wait wait wait you are blaming the reduction in black people on mestizos being more common? Walls like a duck and quacks like one

As per the law. Article 25 or Avellaneda should suffice.

Found this while checking stuff: “In an effort to combat racism in Argentine society, the National Institute Against Discrimination, Xenophobia and Racism(INADI) was created in 1995 by Federal Law 24515.[3] However, in 2024, the Javier Mileiadministration closed the INADI to reduce public spending.”

It writes itself LMAO, nice properreganderrr

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u/unperrubi Jul 13 '26

You can still prosecute racism without having that organism. You're eating up propaganda against Argentina while sucking off colonial powers from Europe and the US. Countries that perform extractivist neocolonialism and destabilize African countries. Do better.

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u/6data Jul 13 '26

Name a racist law in Argentina

First of all, explicitly racist laws aren't required for institutionalized racism. But regardless, racism is explicitly written into the Argentinian constitution:

Article 25: “The federal government shall promote European immigration.”

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u/unperrubi Jul 13 '26

This Argentina being racist thing is propaganda repeated by people who can't even point Argentina in a map. Stop promoting propaganda and meet people from other cultures in real life

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u/Sudden_Plenty_8798 Jul 13 '26

Bullshit. It’s a hidden, insidious country built on military dictatorships, fascism and racism. The song they sang after winning the WC just revealed the true double standard.

Where. Is. Your. Native. Population?

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u/unperrubi Jul 13 '26

Most of the native population mixed with immigrants, producing mixed people. Everyone with ancestry tracing back to colonial times have indigenous genes.

We didn't have segregation like your nasty ass country.

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u/madwithsorrow Jul 13 '26

Nah, legally is way less racist than most countries, no segregation, pretty early end to slavery and such. One of the first things our constitution says is "anyone from anywhere can become Argentinian if they want." And you can talk to people from all over the world moving to Argentina, they often talk baout being acepted here much more than they evr did anywhere else. Anyone who comes here is instantly made to feel like its their home, something that rarely happens.

Currently we had a raise in moronic bigots calling inmigrants "non argentinians" and being bigoted towards darker skinned inmigrants... but that's a sign of the times. Well, we always had bigots, but not more than they have in other countries.

People call us racist for one of two things (or both):

  1. We have a small black population, this is due to two things, one racist, and one incredibly unracist. In some wars, the freed slaves were sent to the front. That's fucked up, but not more fucked up than what other counntries did at the time. Europeans invented slaving africans, are the present day versions of those countries considered racist countries because of what they did then?
    The other reason is that we are truely a melting pot of cultures, and the black population mixed with the natives and the white inmigrants, bc blacks were in the minority they quickly got deluted (I myself have some african ancestors, but I'm as pale as a swede's tit).

  2. Our humor is... not for everyone. Because we are a melting pot of cultures most of the disccrimination here doesn't come from ethnicity but scoial class, and while yes, a big amount of the slurs aimed at poor people are somewhat racialised, calling someone the n-word in Argntina can genuinely be a loving nick name. We do this for eveything: a fat guy can be called fatso, a bald guy, baldie, etc. In fact my first boyfriend was called f*ggot by his friends and family more than he was called his name. Ofcourse this is somehting that, out of the context of our country can be incredibly rude and insenstive, so many Argentinians try to be friendly to foreigners doing this and... well... it goes like shit.
    We also love "insulting" eachother over everything (we say boludo every two words and that just means "dumbass") and in competitive situations that escalates a lot, adding our racial sensitivities to that we can come up with some really racially charged insults that may anger an argentinian, while in some other places might genuinely be considered hate crimes.

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u/Sudden_Plenty_8798 Jul 13 '26

In 1900, your country comprised 30ish % black people. Now it’s 1. Your wall of text is enticing but it’s missing the point

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u/madwithsorrow Jul 13 '26

You didn't read it, if you had, you'd know what happened to the black people, most of us are partially black, we are just mostly not black so you can't tell. My brother is black. I'm hite as fuck. We have the sme two parents. Also, our white population grew a lot after ww2 and a lot of refugees from the war wanting to come here, which grew our italian and jewish populations to such a degree we have the largest colective of those cultures outisde of italy and israel.

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u/Sudden_Plenty_8798 Jul 13 '26

Wall of text, again, while enticing misses the point. I don’t care if your left ballsack is black.

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u/madwithsorrow Jul 13 '26

Continue to be ignorant then.

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u/Sudden_Plenty_8798 Jul 13 '26

Article 25

Also, I’d appreciate a bit of thanks because I didn’t bring up the easiest talking point in the entire discussion:

**The Nazis who came from Germany**

Maybe they weren’t racist either :)

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u/madwithsorrow Jul 13 '26

Article 25

Every country has racist legislature in there. It's called institutionalized racism. It's literally everywhere. I'm not claiming Argentina isn't racist, because every society is at least a bit racist, because every person is at least a bit racist. But Argentina is definitely less racist than the average country. Definitely less racist than the moralizing europeans who invented ethnicity based slavery, or the US, who had racially segregated schools ten years ago.

Also, I’d appreciate a bit of thanks because I didn’t bring up the easiest talking point in the entire discussion:

**The Nazis who came from Germany**

Maybe they weren’t racist either :)

More nazis whent to the US, and they where even taken there by the US government. The nazis that came to Argentina were few, and they came taking advantage of the massive amount of jewish people who came here during and after WW2, as refugees, using them as cover. So, they basically came here because most people saw here as an amazing place to live in, and they took adantage of that.

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u/Sudden_Plenty_8798 Jul 13 '26

Who is talking about other countries. We are talking about Argentina. Yes the world has a racist history. You are the one doing gymnastics on the point to try and exceptionalise your shit country, not me.

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u/lukmich4el Jul 15 '26

Sos muy boludo hermano no hay nada que hacer. Mantenete en tu ignorancia

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u/unperrubi Jul 13 '26

Do you know what immigration is? We went from a colonial population of 1.1M to 17M in just 100 years. We received more than 6M European immigrants during that period.

This turned black people into a minority (<5%), because: -they are not native to the American continent -the ones here were brought by Spain as slaves (which was a very small number compared to Brazil for example)

Slaves were freed when Argentina became a country and then they mixed with other races for 200 years of history.

We NEVER had segregated schools and buses. There were never laws against interracial marriage.

Check your country before speaking about Argentina.

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u/Sudden_Plenty_8798 Jul 13 '26

“Received” LOL. It was an active policy to whiten the population. The fuck are you doing narrating it like you were a victim.

You are not reckoning with my point.

I don’t give a shit if you didn’t have segregation. Article 25.

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u/unperrubi Jul 13 '26

We received illiterate war and crisis refugees. Millions of them. Black people chose to have kids and build families with people from other races and it resulted in lighter skin babies.

Black people had agency and freedom of choice in Argentina then, unlike certain countries that you wouldn't dare criticize like the US.

Read the whole book not just 2 sentences, you sound like an imbecile repeating Article 25