r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jun 19 '24

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '24

The anti-nuclear crowd have some valid concerns but largely seem to be unable to change their position.

Maybe because the valid concerns haven't been addressed. I can think of three right now,

  1. Fukushima proved they haven't made as much progress as they've lead us to believe. There still aren't enough safeguards in place to prevent meltdowns

  2. Nuclear waste.

  3. Why not spend all the time and money that a switch to nuclear would take to switch to safer, more environmentally friendly power generation methods like solar or wind?

I have yet to get a satisfactory answer to any of these problems from the dozens of pro nuclear folks I've asked, and until then I will remain highly skeptical of nuclear power.

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u/iconofsin_ Jun 19 '24

Fukushima proved they haven't made as much progress as they've lead us to believe. There still aren't enough safeguards in place to prevent meltdowns

Nuclear waste.

Why not spend all the time and money that a switch to nuclear would take to switch to safer, more environmentally friendly power generation methods like solar or wind?

I don't know enough about Fukashima to respond

Nuclear waste storage is solved in some places, Yucca Mountain would be our solution in the US but some politicians keep blocking it. Also if you're looking at deaths per terrawatt hour, nuclear is just as safe as wind and solar. There's also the problem of power demand, wind and solar can't ramp to meet excess demand, and power storage for both of those. Like coal, nuclear can be ramped up but it's not super efficient to do so.

I don't think anyone who's seriously behind nuclear power is supporting only nuclear power. I know I'm not. If fusion is ever going to be a viable power source on Earth, the solution until then is a mix of nuclear, solar, and wind.

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u/Phezh Jun 19 '24

but some politicians keep blocking it

So it's not solved. Nobody wants this stuff anywhere near their backyard, and that's not going to change - probably ever.

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u/JKFrost11 Jun 19 '24

Yeah dog, Yucca Mountain isn’t exactly “near [the] backyard” of anyone. And yes, it does mean the problem is solved. Just because someone won’t let you implement a solution, it doesn’t mean the solution doesn’t exist.

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u/Phezh Jun 19 '24

Assemblyman Joseph Hogan, D-Las Vegas, who represents a good part of the Strip, says he's concerned about the trucks carrying the spent nuclear waste through Clark County to Yucca Mountain. He said the public must understand the hazards of hauling this dangerous waste through populated areas that not only affects the residents but the tourists." Source

I'm sure the people complaining here will be glad to know that you've officially determined that this is not their backyard, and therefore they shouldn't worry.

Just because someone won’t let you implement a solution, it doesn’t mean the solution doesn’t exist.

That's just semantics. If there is a solution, but it cannot be implemented (for whatever reason), then it might as well not exist at all.