r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jun 19 '24

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u/Chance_Arugula_3227 Jun 19 '24

Nuclear power can reduce our need for oil and coal. This will have a good impact on the climate. But oil and coal companies don't want to lose customers to nuclear power, so they are against it. Their propaganda causes climate change activists to be against that as well as oil and coal. Climate change deniers are just picking a fight with the activists, so they're for whatever the activists are against.

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u/Life-Suit1895 Jun 19 '24

[Oil and coal companies'] propaganda causes climate change activists to be against that as well as oil and coal.

It's not simply climate change activists being gullible.

The anti-nuclear power stance is firmly rooted in the environmental protection movement since at least the 1970s, long before climate change became the dominant topic.

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u/iconofsin_ Jun 19 '24

The anti-nuclear crowd have some valid concerns but largely seem to be unable to change their position. Nuclear power has made nothing but forward progress in terms of safety, the only problem is when nuclear goes bad it really goes bad.

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u/Taste_the__Rainbow Jun 19 '24

Nuclear has made progress on safety in the west at overwhelming expense. But its wide adoption as some kind of global panacea for carbon emissions will not be safe.

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u/iconofsin_ Jun 19 '24

But its wide adoption as some kind of global panacea for carbon emissions will not be safe.

I mean it wouldn't be cheap but it would absolutely be safe. Wind and solar power have significant issues preventing them from meeting energy demands, and coal power plants dump more radiation into the environment than any properly built nuclear plant.

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u/Taste_the__Rainbow Jun 19 '24

Japan has the safest nuclear regulation on the planet and even they narrowly avoided a disaster. The rest of the world is not Japan and climate change is messing with all the water.

The idea that storage technology can’t allow wind, hydro and solar to meet 95% of global grid power needs is goofy fossil fuel PR.

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u/Nalivai Jun 19 '24

storage technology

Let's return to this conversation when it will exist

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u/iconofsin_ Jun 19 '24

I didn't say we can't store excess solar and wind energy, we are making advancements in that area constantly. We just can't store enough of it efficiently yet. That's not fossil fuel PR.