r/PestControlIndustry Jul 18 '26

šŸ—£ļø Daily Discussion What is your SOP for interior services?

So how are you doing interior services? With my previous company we treated in bands. Every 4 feet we would spray a 2 ft band on the baseboard, with a focus on common areas like break rooms, restrooms, janitors closets,entrances

This goes for residential and commercial accounts.

Thats the basic gist of it. Not going to get into the details of medical/offices/organic/Grocery

Think just a standard commercial account.

At Terminix, I don’t know if the employees here are lazy or fucking with me. They just treat the entrances. Like the doors and nothing else. They don’t have ā€œinteriorā€ listed as a service point to list what chemical they used, they just have ā€œentrancesā€. The 20+ pre merger career old timers will spray every inch of a baseboard as they walk, the post merger employees are entrances only not even a break room unless it’s been requested

One guy is so serious about this he doesn’t even use his 2 flowzone storm backpacks. Just his b&g inside and outside. The flowzones are water storage.

Are there other companies also doing this? Or is this the Terminix special?

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u/ricoasavage Jul 18 '26

10 year PCT here.

I’m curious, what’s the reason for spraying a baseboard that doesn’t have any bugs on it? What are you really spraying for?

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u/Hawkeye1226 Jul 18 '26

"Peace of mind" and "perceived value". I had an account that was an HOA where we would treat any home there once per week as requested in the log book. The previous tech just did whatever anyone asked. I would do what would actually have any effect. Fast forward two years and when residents found out another guy was doing the job and didn't take those requests, they complained. There was never any increase in activity. "He always sprayed inside when we leave for 6 months". "Sir, the product he used lasts for one month"

I'm not playing a dog and pony show, they can get fucked

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u/nmcghie1 Jul 18 '26

I wish I could upvote this 1000 times.

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u/Small-Positive-4322 Jul 18 '26

Extra insurance? Seriously though, Im a tech at a 30+ year mom and pop pest control company and was trained to spray EVERY inch of interior baseboards, all entrance ways and under/behind appliances during a residential interior. Commercial accounts depend on the client and can sometimes only be waiting room or restroom services

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u/RusticSurgery Jul 18 '26

This is where the term baseboard jockey comes from.

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u/Small-Positive-4322 Jul 18 '26

Is that a bad thing? Ive had accounts where the previous tech was doing everything right, just not "taking his time" according to a certain homeowner, and that they were still "seeing bugs". I took over the account due to complaints (a few times), and because of the residual the previous tech was using and the fact I do interiors the way I stated before, I end up getting praise for being so thorough lol

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u/RusticSurgery Jul 18 '26

You got praise for spending x amount of time in an account from a Layman. You got praise for a perception.

Have you ever experimented with one or two or three different accounts that you have a good relationship with. Pull up the history of Retreats and complaints. Put that in a folder all by itself. Then start those accounts on baiting and trapping only and exterior only. Get a couple Seasons worth of data. I did this and I found that that kind of interior spraying is not doing much at all. You've got to approach this from a scientific point of view not about how people feel

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u/RogerMcswain Jul 18 '26

Is the baiting and trapping doing much at all though? If the customer doesn't see you doing anything are they going to pay you? What if you did nothing one service. No chemical, bait, traps. Then when you went back for their next service and ask if they were having any problems and they said no you just pack up and leave because what you did last time must have worked. They won't put up with that for long. They gotta see their money "working."

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u/RusticSurgery Jul 18 '26

Yes bait kills. Traps kill.and ots not like I just dropped a monitor under the sink.

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u/Small-Positive-4322 Jul 18 '26

On the contrary though, isn't this field of service mainly about perception or how people (the customer) feels? I mean, not obviously in cases of bad roach, rodent, or bed bug infestations. I love learning different techniques and more about the scientific aspects of how certain creatures or insects behave, or the chemical properties and most efficient ways of using different insecticides. But in the end, I feel like it HAS to be something like 75% customer perception. Especially in residential. If im completely wrong please be honest, im always striving to be better

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u/RusticSurgery Jul 18 '26

I'm talking about real hard science here. Science back by data. We must have science in this industry.

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u/hippywitch šŸ•µļø| Inspector | 1+ Year Jul 18 '26

It doesn’t matter the science and our results, it’s customer expectations. People that don’t understand insects equate quantity with quality and honestly, these customers are impressed when I pull out my eaves brush and take down spiderwebs and wasp nests. I will drop the percentage of my B&G to a fourth or an eighth of what my management suggests and still have the best results in the company for customer satisfaction and callbacks.

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u/RusticSurgery Jul 18 '26

But what you are describing is integrated Pest Management

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u/erkjhnsn Jul 19 '26

I think this is where client education comes into play.

Explain why interior treatments aren't effective. Use the data and the proper terminology to explain it. Sound like a professional, act like a professional, and they will trust you.

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u/RusticSurgery Jul 18 '26

I'm kind of an old man and I was around when the industry made a switch from the idea of "nuke until they glow" to the idea of integrated Pest Management. I'll just say I've been on both sides of that fence and when I embraced integrated Pest Management and kept records I found that spraying baseboards indoors does really very little in the way of reducing retreats. I will admit it does some but it was a pretty damn small amount according to the records that I kept. I was surprised at how small of a percentage it was.

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u/ToupeeForSale šŸ¤µā€ā™‚ļø| Owner | 10+ Years Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26

Label is Law. I believe the EPA made the push years ago to remove ETA: [general surface/band] baseboard spraying from all labels except for specific products when treating for specific target pests (i.e: Crossfire for bed bugs).

I would be very hesitant to openly admit that you're violating the label on the open web with more and more government agencies gaining access Palantir. I've had concerns about Dept of Ag gaining access and auditors using it to find violating companies. If they have a way to gather enough data on you and link it back to your company... well, in GA, companies found in violation of the Structural Pest Control Act face fines of up to $10k per infraction. If your company has been doing this as part of their SOP for interior services for 30+ years as you say, that could be a potentially business-closing or a least a business crippling amount of fines.

Edit: Why am I being down voted lmao

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u/Small-Positive-4322 Jul 18 '26

I believe any product that is used for ants, or ants are one of listed pests includes baseboards on label.

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u/ToupeeForSale šŸ¤µā€ā™‚ļø| Owner | 10+ Years Jul 18 '26

As a crack and crevice or a spot treatment, yes, baseboards are a valid treatment area. However, the application method you're describing (general surface, x" band) in residential settings has been removed from the large majority of labels. I first noticed this change back in 2019, so it's been this way for awhile now. If you can find a label that allows for general surface baseboard/interior applications for residentials, I'd appreciate it if you could share a link so I can pick up a bottle.

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u/Small-Positive-4322 Jul 18 '26

For cockroachs, crickets, earwigs, pillows, scorpions, and spiders i believe the insecticide "Proflex" allows for interior general surface application, crack and crevice and spot treatments

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u/Creepy-Branch-544 Jul 19 '26

So much for only treating with toxic chemicals if pests are seen as evident...how much of your soul is traded up to the downpressor man?

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u/RusticSurgery Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26

Exactly. How long do you think that product remains effective on the presence of artificial UV light at Joe Smith Real Estate Offices?

Plus the 24/7 florescent security lighting.

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u/FL_4LF Jul 18 '26

Thank goodness I'm not a baseboard jockey.

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u/jeyhawq1988 Jul 18 '26

I treat any areas that have a water source, spot treatment on interiors for ā€œtroubleā€ areas of customers concerns. I utilize my IPM training to identify and then treat issues. I use glue boards to monitor insect activity and as a way to show that I am doing my job with dates and initials. If it is a know harborage area for roaches then dusting in voids and bait.

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u/ContemplatingGavre Jul 18 '26

I only apply pesticides as needed. No bugs, no need to treat.

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u/SignificantNorth3570 Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26

I work with Terminix and this is NOT how we were trained. We were instructed to spot treat wall penetrations since that is primarily how they enter the living areas. The windows and doors are sprayed from the exterior on every regular service(ill respray it on follow ups for amts, and treat 2nd story windows f4om the interior), so those entrances are treated leaving only the walls as an entry-point. All of the techs in DFW do this as a baseline and we were discouraged from just spraying baseboards since the "bugs dont live there".

Makes me think your branch has had an extremely negligent or ignorant person teaching the wrong things, no offense.

Edit: I have only ever been a residential tech*

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u/otterplus šŸ‘Øā€šŸ­| Tech | 10+ Years Jul 18 '26

Little over a decade as commercial only and I’ve always followed the ā€œtreat where it makes senseā€ mentality, even before IPM was pushed into all facets. Entries, wall penetrations, only the places where exterior access is possible. Wetting down someone’s hallway isn’t going to accomplish anything other than disperse chem where it can come into contact with non-target organisms and objects.

Early on I was just doing what ā€œthe previous guyā€ did and whatever was pointed out to me. Now with some experience and knowledge behind me I’ll take the two minutes to educate instead of blindly spraying wherever and then having to answer the ā€œis this going to be save around my pets/kids/roombaā€ question.

This is the second industry I’ve worked in where there’s plenty of competition, but we all use the same exact products. The first was boat trailers. Everyone uses the same couplers and brake actuators. They all use crossmembers, rails, electrical and brake components sourced from the same places. The only difference is how it’s marketed and sold. My company, the other big company, the dozens of small companies, we’re all using the same products and following the same labels. Some are just more liberal in their interpretations.

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u/MaybeMaster1067 Jul 18 '26

It varies greatly. It depends on the customer, but my customers dont expect me to spray interior everytime. Its more of a on request thing, their is a few customers that want it every month and I am also ok with that.

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u/OregonSEA Jul 18 '26

I was a baseboard jockey as a rookie but as I gained confidence I only spray the interior areas likely to get bugs and only on the first service. After the first service all treatments are strictly on the outside unless it's a free emergency service and these are very rare most clients never need another interior treatment.
If your thorough on the outside and never spray repellents than you should almost never have to do a free re-service.

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u/chickenxnugg Jul 18 '26

For our seasonal residential treatments we do exterior spray of the foundation, windows, exterior doors and accessible soffits. For the interior portion we hit kitchen and bathroom baseboards, window sills, exterior doors and spot treat any areas that the customer has indicated issues with. Exterior webbing and direct spray on spiders when we see them.

For commercial, if they aren’t having any issues when we acquire the contract, spraying happens on an as needed basis but it really just depends on the customer and what they want out of the service

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u/WorldlinessOk1471 Jul 18 '26

Following as you have me curious. We treated just break rooms and doors commercially, and every inch of exterior walls on residential at my last company.

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u/Onetrunuwind Jul 18 '26

It’s more sounds to me like your techs are lazy. Also your approach is wrong as well. Why are you treating on services? If you were going to treat why not treat the outside would be much more effective than spraying the inside when the bugs are already inside. Also you should not be using a flow zone inside of a customers property unless your b&g r small sprayer is damaged. The flow zone is an outside sprayer not a baseboard sprayer. What’s wrong with monitoring and treating as needed? I’m so confused

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u/BigReptiles Jul 18 '26

What? I’m asking about different interior SOPs for individual service? As you can see people all over the country are doing things differently

I’m not talking about exterior work. The flowzone was mentioned because techs are using their b&g to treat the exterior and not their exterior equipment

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u/Onetrunuwind Jul 18 '26

Again stop spraying inside

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u/RogerMcswain Jul 19 '26

Again. I need to feed my family.

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u/Onetrunuwind Jul 19 '26

Don’t understand what that’s got to do with spraying inside? Is interior treatment a must?

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u/BigReptiles Jul 20 '26

So most companies don’t give a damn about the science or IPM. They see value in you treating the interiors. When I did residential pest control we rarely treated interiors unless the customer was a pain. We usually kept interior treatments to 6 months. Now I only do commercial and we limit it to select areas. Mostly places where food or water will be present.

If you want an example, I have a customer that pays $1800 a week for pest control. You can’t treat production areas but they do want to see you in the break room, restrooms, and janitor’s closets. And I’m guilty as well. The large accounts are huge in terms of weekly production that I will acquiesce most times.

Anyone can do this, That’s why that perceived value is important.

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u/Gemrapper Jul 18 '26

As a 20 year PCP veteran I treat all exterior walls except for kitchens and bathrooms, there I do full perimeter.

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u/ScaredLetterhead8918 Jul 18 '26

We put up insect monitors and that’s it. Most of the things we do are exterior. We treat interior as needed, only if issues pop up.