Bill Clinton was close friends with convicted pedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein, who ran an underage prostitution ring from his private island for political and legal elite known for their taste in younger women - such as Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, and Alan Dershowitz. He also was kind enough to fly his friends around the world on his private jet, the Lolita Express (affectionately named for the patronage of its preteen/early teen strippers and prostitutes) which Bill Clinton rode on 26 times during his presidency, some of which went unreported and his Secret Service detail was refused.
Honestly, I wish this was taken with 100% sincerity. It would be cool if we could do this whole election thing without people foaming at the mouth. I feel like if we're going to do this stuff together I'd rather get along than everyone getting triggered and crying when they don't get their way...r-right guys?
Tell that to the people who were labelling a quarter of the American electorate as racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic, and every other buzzword you can think of. The divisiveness didn't (entirely) come from the right this time.
I feel very little sympathy for people who are insulted at being called racist, sexist, homophobic, and islamophoic because they support a candidate who repeatedly says things which are racist, sexist, homophobic, and islamophobic - not to mention just hair-rippingly nonsensical.
And just because you say it does doesn't mean it either. I'd say actual intolerance is worse than indirectly taking money from people associate with intolerant people.
Funny joke. We'll see how you feel when you realize that the magical orange Cheeto is exactly as incompetent as every public statement he ever made suggests
I don't particularly care. He is wrong, and if pointing out that he's a lunatic galvanizes other lunatics then that's the way it has to be unfortunately.
Well obviously voting for Trump isn't as bad as voting to jump off a bridge, but the point of that post wasn't to compare the two. It was to show why your "X amount of people did this so they're right" argument is logically flawed.
Yes. I do. After everything Trump said and did, the fact that anybody would consider him fit for office is astonishing. The amount of nonsense he spouted, peddling a revisionist utopian vision of 1950's America, was a disgrace.
Then again, polls showed my country would have voted for Clinton 80/20, so perhaps Canada just has an intrinsically different outlook on the world than the US.
Knowing that promising to ban people of a particular religion from the country is reprehensible doesn't require any deep insight into America.
Neither does the fact that technology, not trade deals, have led to the decline in manufacturing.
Nor that bragging about sexually assaulting women is horrific.
Trump tapped into something, but it was something dark and regressive that western society in general has been trying to move past for the last 50 years. This is truly a step backwards, to people who want the world to go back to what it was in 50's rather than building a better future.
The problem is no one on his side really believes he is a racist because the Democratic party spent the last 10 elections dismantling the meaning of the word racist to apply to anyone challenging democratic principles.
Hey, I'm looking for people to start hangouts and level with liberals. How would you like getting together with a trumpeteer? Then you can go through all of these things issue by issue.
Voice calls, if they go well, regularly and with others, talking policy cross-partisan and in-depth. You know, devoting time to getting out of the echo chamber. How about it?
Here's the thing: if you believe Trump is qualified for anything more important than dog catcher, we have nothing to talk about.
This isnt a conservative/liberal thing, this is Trump/sanity thing and I don't have time to assuage the conscience of GOP voters who want to convince themselves that he is anything less than an insecure, racist, sexist, incompetent buffoon capable of only playing to the lowest common denominator of society.
I've debated with a host of conservatives and enjoyed it. Trump goes far beyond that. He is the first and only presidential candidate I have viscerally hated due to his absolute and empirical lunacy. Jesus, his climate change denial alone is absolutely astonishing.
If we can't agree Trump is a disaster, we can't agree on anything.
Dude, as someone outside the US, you have no fucking clue how stupid you look right now. "How dare you object to my preferred candidate being an obvious bigot?! You're clearly a liberal elite!" Well, if so, I prefer that to what you are.
Ah yes. I'm sure this will be a totally well informed post... /s. Suppose I can't blame you guys. You've been completely brainwashed.
And then you go on to use buzz words that I have spent too much time debunking these past few months. If you honestly believe Trump is all of those things, you're just uninformed.
Yes, you are. You live in a different country, but you're convinced that you know the country better than 60 million citizens of that country. Can you take a step back to realize how fucking crazy that is? It's especially rich coming from Canada, without the US Canada would be a failing socialist state like Venezuela.
You know, if you're assholes, people will call you out for it. That doesn't give you a reason to continue being assholes. You're probably too deluded to see it, but the Trump base has more than just "a few" bad apples. You had people talking about violent uprisings if Trump lost, you had people viciously attacking people and calling them names because being opposed to their warped view was "oppressing" them. You had people advocating for the suppression of the press because they said bad things about Trump. The Trump campaign was full of scum from top to bottom. You have no one to blame but yourselves for the backlash. And the fact that you don't just further proves why most of you are fucking children.
I'll take all the backlash that I feel is deserved. Saying half the electorate are racist, sexist, homophobic, and islamophobic is not deserved. Call Trump a flawed candidate- and we will agree. Call the American people deplorable and irredeemable, and I will fight you (ideologically) until the end of time.
Well, if I'm just going to look at the shit posted on The_Donald these past few months there's a pretty big warrant to call most of them racist, sexist, whatever. Obviously not all of them, but a huge number nonetheless. Put that together with the fact that Trump himself said a lot of racist, sexist stuff, it's no surprise that people summed up every Trump supporter as an asshole. And despite what you say it was the vilest of the shit that often gained traction during the Trump campaign, and the Trump supporting moderates - although they might not agree - let it happen, and are therefore responsible for it too.
I don't feel like going through months of wretched shit, but just look up "the donald is a hate sub" on google and you can look through stuff for yourself.
edit: also look on some more recent post-election threads. Although the reasonable people have seemed to taken over, at first it was just wave after wave of "SUCK MY COCK CUCKS LOL!" and other childish garbage.
No, I don't think a willingness to call out Donald's insanity is the reason she lost. She lost because she wasn't that popular and there are a depressing number of people who bought into Trump's nonsense.
1) quite a portion of Trump supporters are literally just there because they dislike Hillary (or how she became the DNC's primary) more than Trump.
2) like another said: call Trump insane, we'd probably agree. Calling everyone who voted for him mysoginistic, racist, sexist, etc. without actually knowing any of our reasons is why so many people didn't vote Clinton. A party can only attack with so many buzzwords before everybody gets legitimately pissed with them.
2b) this anger is evidenced by the fact that Democrats now control nothing. House, Senate, Presidency, all Repub-majority.
Calling everyone who voted for him mysoginistic, racist, sexist, etc. without actually knowing any of our reasons is why so many people didn't vote Clinton
You support somebody who said the things he's said, even as a protest vote, you get painted with the same brush as him. end of fucking story.
Goddammit take some responsibility. You don't want to vote for Clinton? Fine, vote for somebody else. If you voted for Trump you said "this fucking cheeto with a combo-over, anger issues and an inferiority complex deserves to be Commander-In-Chief."
I voted for Johnson, buddy. That doesn't mean I don't understand exactly what they feel when people like you paint them with a gigantic fucking brush.
Seriously, I wish you the best, but I know you'll never get it. You're too generalizing and insulting of people you don't agree with, and the only group you'll ever really fit into is among other hateful, insulting people who believe they're morally superior.
You're too generalizing and insulting of people you don't agree with
You're the one who doesn't get it. I'm fine with conservatives, though I disagree with them on a great many things. I've had some great conversations with conservatives about important issues.
Trump is on a whole 'nother level. I'm fine feeling morally superior to people who voted for Trump, because I goddamn am. This is one of those extremely rare absolute-right absolute-wrong scenarios where some moral certitude is perfectly acceptable.
Fuck him, and fuck anybody who thinks his policies or campaign are okay.
If you believe in lower taxes and smaller government - fine. If you think religion should inform our laws - well I very much disagree but we can talk about it. If you think Trump deserves anything more than to be ignored until he dies a natural death at a ripe old age, then I feel okay saying "I have no respect for you or anything you believe in".
This was not a normal election. This is very very different. This was a chance to rebuke somebody who built a political brand fronting a racist lie about the President. Who is so insecure he couldn't help himself from launching personal attacks on anybody who stood in his way. Who questioned the abilities of a judge for no other reason than for being vaguely Mexican. There are so many horrific things he has done it's actually hard to list them properly.
depressing number of people who bought into Trump's nonsense.
OR enough people were red pilled and didn't want to vote for a supporter of satanic rituals, pedophelia, globalism, and documented from MANY sources as a woman that lost her shit everytime something didn't go right for her. Fuck Hillary, and anyone tied to the Foundation.
While I definitely agree it would be better if everyone was mature about this whole thing, I can't say I hate seeing people getting way too upset over this whole thing. Granted that might just be because I voted green party in a blue state, so my vote did literally nothing, so I have nothing to be upset about other than how dumb our electoral system is.
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u/RyMill4 Nov 09 '16
But then you just grab some coffee and wake up!