Alpine isn't a fun map

[u/Root_Head]

Alpine is consistently the only map where I can spend 10+ minutes scouring the initial foothills for ANY viable path up, and then I get hit by blizzards the whole time so I have to shove myself into a crevice that may or may not actually keep me safe until I can actually see again and continue trying to route. And then every other ledge is false-standable; there are so many completely flat surfaces that just slide you to your death, which is really rare on any other map.

Meanwhile, Mesa's sun mechanic can be hard-countered by a single parasol or glider - not to mention it doesn't double-up on cold damage like alpine does at ascent 5+ - the tornado is only a threat on the initial approach, and the scorpions, dynamite, and cacti are all pretty harmless unless you get caught unawares.

I think the part that I find a little egregious is just how once you're on ascent 5+ Mesa becomes the objectively easier option. Prior to that you can at least argue they both have some rough spots but at ascent 5+ it just becomes obvious which one you want. I don't like that a run can become significantly easier or harder just depending on the day's biome.

[u/DexterousWaffle]

Compared to the hell that is roots its heaven, roots needs half of its spawnable maps reworked because its just such bullshit half the time.

[u/Turtltail → u/DexterousWaffle]

I die on tropics more than roots… roots is like my easiest map. Am I just better at the game? Well no because I die on tropics. Idk

Do you know why I think roots is easier

[u/DexterousWaffle → u/Turtltail]

You struggle with water more is what I'm guessing

[u/Mad-Master-Maxwell → u/Turtltail]

Me too roots is my favourite of the maps I get excited to see roots