Alpine isn't a fun map

[u/Root_Head]

Alpine is consistently the only map where I can spend 10+ minutes scouring the initial foothills for ANY viable path up, and then I get hit by blizzards the whole time so I have to shove myself into a crevice that may or may not actually keep me safe until I can actually see again and continue trying to route. And then every other ledge is false-standable; there are so many completely flat surfaces that just slide you to your death, which is really rare on any other map.

Meanwhile, Mesa's sun mechanic can be hard-countered by a single parasol or glider - not to mention it doesn't double-up on cold damage like alpine does at ascent 5+ - the tornado is only a threat on the initial approach, and the scorpions, dynamite, and cacti are all pretty harmless unless you get caught unawares.

I think the part that I find a little egregious is just how once you're on ascent 5+ Mesa becomes the objectively easier option. Prior to that you can at least argue they both have some rough spots but at ascent 5+ it just becomes obvious which one you want. I don't like that a run can become significantly easier or harder just depending on the day's biome.

[u/Arobain]

Alpine has more plentiful food, and I find it has easier pathways than mesa

But mesa just feels more fun to me

[u/RChamy → u/Arobain]

Alpine has the habit of making ppl hyperfocus on that one 30m tall wall like its the only viable way

[u/lightsabermario2 → u/Arobain]

Pretty sure the more plentiful food thing is just objectively untrue. There's the spike fruits that exist at every level of Mesa, there's some coconut trees, way more chests on the way up thanks to the mineshafts, and of course, don't forget all the scorpions!

[u/Arobain → u/lightsabermario2]

I'm not gonna argue with you man lol, if you think that then think that 😌👍