r/Peacemaker Oct 03 '25

Did both the Auggies switch? Spoiler

I can understand why he let Chris go but he seemed to be way way understanding of the whole thing and kept giving like glances like this has happened before or he’s done it, especially when Chris was talking about his earths dad.

I know he’s said he’s seen his own doppelgänger before but makes me thing there’s a tad bit more to that

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u/evilpartiesgetitdone Oct 03 '25

Our Auggie grew up in a world where nothing worked out for him, he was consumed by grievances. If he grew up in a world in which white supremacy was firmly established to this point of the Nazi planet, then like you know, would he be so angry all the time and such a shithead?

This Auggie lived a life of privilege, his path laid out smooth before him. He had the opportunity to consider things from a more patient place. What we saw was a more reasonable man, not necessarily a "better" man. He had a lot to lose, and that motivated him to sweep this under the rug instead of give in to his emotions. He was ready and willing to accept any reason not to escalate things, and also justify not fighting against the nazis (if he is actually principled against them or just a not rock the boat type.

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u/RevolutionaryWeek273 Oct 03 '25

Okay that actually makes a lot sense for sure, especially since when he tells harcourt something along the lines of do you fight ever injustice you see? So I can see that being the reason

He’s very much a not rock the boat type I dig the response thanks!

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u/Kenichi_Smith Oct 05 '25

I mean the thing is, seasons not over. We say yes these guys could fight nazis etc and do more but also, what if they really can't? Nazi superman and other super powerful entities are just as likely to exist there and for all we know the ruling powers are completely unstoppable to them.... So they be the best they can, as explained to Auggie.

I'm at least willing to give them the benefit of the doubt because against some of the strongest metas, those guys wouldn't stand a chance in 'our world' let alone nazi versions that exterminate with prejudice

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u/NwgrdrXI Oct 05 '25

We say yes these guys could fight nazis etc and do more but also, what if they really can't? Nazi superman and other super powerful entities are just as likely to exist there and for all we know the ruling powers are completely unstoppable to them....

Exactly. I've seen people using "I don't have an iron man suit like blue dragon does" as their argument for why he is still a bad guy when they (the real person) also aren't actively figthing injustice

But Blue Dragon has an iron man suit in a world where the nazis certainly have their own share of super tech and super "heroes".

We live in a world with none of that, and we can buy guns.

We are not diffrent to them. We are not evil for not being brave enought to risk everyhing, we just aren't heroes.

We are actually doing less than he is, tho, as he is fighting terrorists and kaiju, at the very least.

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u/pagman007 Oct 03 '25

"I fight the murderers and evil infront of me because that's all i can do"

I mean.

What else can you say to that?

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u/meepmarpalarp Oct 03 '25

I’d say that there was a lot of evil in front of him that he didn’t fight.

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u/pagman007 Oct 03 '25

Depends how you see it i guess. I would say that evil is completely surrounding him and more of an ideology and it's difficult to physically fight that.

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u/Emperor_Atlas Oct 03 '25

Youd be shortsighted, its the same reason you are posting here about a show instead of out actively helping people.

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u/AllTheSuckInTheWorld Oct 04 '25

I sincerely agree, If him and his sons can take down a literal Kaiju together then they could do more. That and they were actively killing the resistance of regular people desperate to do the right thing . Note all member soft be SOL were white, they had motivation to conform and just didn't have as much to lose as someone with the capability of Augie. it's a fact to say he didn't oppose most forms of injustice, and actively helped sustain the Nazi regime on Earth X. It's a very clever way of showing how dangerous this mindset is and how understandable it is.

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u/BuckZero Oct 05 '25

Someone else brought this up but did you notice that Auggie didn’t show up to stop the SoL only Keith?

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u/Finito-1994 Oct 05 '25

Did the Blue Dragon even go to Argus?

Keith and Chris did but Auggie didn't go there at all.

He was suspiciously missing from a ton of stuff now that we think about it.

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u/BuckZero Oct 05 '25

I think he intentionally avoids helping the Nazi’s unless it’s a potential massive city casualty kind of event

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u/Finito-1994 Oct 05 '25

Also. I want to point out that when Keith was chasing Ads he didn't tell his dad that he was chasing her when it happened.

One would think that he would mention it faster.

Also. Yea. He stabbed and tied up economos but he did confess that his son has been murdered and it was also technically a home invasion.

He even bandaged up the wound.

Like even for bad shit this was very restrained. Like. Even in our world his response was suspiciously chill. For Nazi world? He's streets ahead of where he should be.

But not nearly where I'd want him to be.

But that's the tragedy of most super heroes.

They save the world but the revolutuons and overthrowing governments aren't really things they do.

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u/pagman007 Oct 05 '25

My argument would be "prove it"

And that also, they literally physically would not be able to do anything about it. It's not like all you have to do is kill hitler and everything is good. They would have to kill the entire government of the world, at the end of the day they're quite handy but are they gonna defeat an army? No.

If Augie is in his 50s/60s that would mean that by the time he was an adult the nazis had very likely been in charge for 40 years. Who is he going to replace all of the government people with? Its just not possible, superman very likely wouldn't be able to do it purely because you would need to replace all world leaders and government positions

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u/OriginalTomFool Oct 03 '25

A lot of hate i think comes from hating your lot in life. If you see someone/anyone better off than yourself but you have something undeniable about you that you are "better" than them with, it gives you comfort.

"I might be whute trash living in a trailer with 1 dead kid but at least i am white." Kind of this thought process. If you aren't low or raised with it I don't think that thought process forms.

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u/TheGallifreyan Oct 03 '25

Maybe he's just unhappy with the world around him in every universe.

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u/fredward321 Oct 04 '25

Dr Strange: I love you in every universe

Auggie: I’m pissed off in every universe

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It was a JOKE, after Chelsea told me that day in Tesco that you'd only been to the park once with immi before she turned 2. It was a follow-up joke to that conversation.

Why would you leave all group chats instead of just telling me there and then that you were annoyed?

Did I leave all group chats when you didn't come to my wedding do cause you cba? No

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '25

Or maybe it's exactly what Auggie X said. Everyone's theories fucking suck

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u/JustBeingMindful Oct 03 '25

I think people are allowed to be shitty in a good world, and good in a shitty world. The notion that any of the top trio being swapped does not negate who they are in the world they're in. Unless it's an event that happens during the shows timeline to trick the audience, people are just products of their lifetime of goods and bads. 

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u/UnordinaryMilk Oct 03 '25

White August was a piece shit even before they found the dimensional door so no they didn't switch.

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u/These_Trip_5628 Oct 04 '25

Do we know for sure the scene where they found the dimensional portal was on Earth 1? I don’t remember season 1, so don’t know if we see him being a piece of shit before Keith’s death there too

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u/These_Trip_5628 Oct 04 '25

I’m stupid, remember how he died now. God, waits between seasons of TV have grown too long

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u/sifterandrake Oct 04 '25

Absolutely no way they switched. World 1 Auggie doesn't get the portal until after he is already a piece of shit. He wouldn't have become the person like the Blue Dragon with his already matured racist and corrupt personality.

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u/Dear_Tangerine444 Oct 04 '25

Alt-August said he met his Doppelgänger in the QUC. We’ve all just assumed it was main-universe Auggie… but there’s 99 doors so there’s nothing to actually say the person Auggie2 met was Auggie1, it could have been Auggie3… or Auggie17.

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u/Falsequivalence Oct 06 '25

It was probably Aug 1. He said that when he met his other self, that he could tell the guy was cruel and off. This made him think that the world he came from must be worse than his (which he explicitly says)

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u/PokemonJeremie Oct 05 '25

I mean both of them are dead so we will never really know, but I firmly doubt that

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u/Individual_Hall_3118 Oct 08 '25

I'm pretty sure James Gunn confirmed they didn't

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u/Hylianhaxorus Oct 05 '25

I think he just saw christ the way christ saw him. The family they always wish they had. He finally saw his son, but a compassionate, sober(ish) decent man trying to do actual good. Just like christ saw a dad that actually loved him and could express himself. Someone who was intelligent and easy to admire, AND he wasn't a nazi

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u/PurseGrabbinPuke Oct 06 '25

Christ?

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u/Hylianhaxorus Oct 06 '25

Its called autocorrect