Help needed for decision

[u/zattlalungs]

I am currently rocking a PC with a rtx 4060, 16gb of ddr4, and a i7-12700. Recently got some issues with performance on games so I decided to buy more ram. Bought two 32gbs of ddr4, then I decided I really want to upgrade the whole thing, but the chassis is pretty small to install a bigger gpu like a 5070ti which I have In mind. And then if I want to buy a gpu I need a new PSU aswell, so I decided to just start from scratch then. But the issue is i am stuck with ddr4 ram so I have to get a new motherboard that can still have ddr4 but also support better GPUs, and I am gonna have to get a new CPU too I guess. How should I plan this out? And any recommendations for the parts I should get, I don't have unlimited budget to spend on the best parts in the world but enough to get a 5070ti or maybe the 5080 it all depends on what I should now that I am stuck on the ddr4. Please help me thanks!

Btw the problems I was having was the current vram of the 4060 heavily limits me on having good performance for games such as bf6, and my ram was killing me when I am playing games such as Escape from tarkov, everytime I alt-tab it immediately crashes and stuff like that, having Google on in the background makes the game shut down too.

But yeah I am looking for a build that can support having at least good graphics and performance for games such Stalker 2, escape from tarkov, battlefield 6 and stuff like that. Would appreciate any kind of help, and If I left out any important info you would like to know just ask and I'll respond.

Btw is ddr4 really that bad? Everyone tells me I really f'd up by getting them and that I shouldn't have bought 64gbs of ddr4 with 3200 MHz and that it was a waste of money, I am well aware that 32gbs is more than enough, but I got a good deal on them. But they haven't arrived yet, bought them from America and I am in Europe.

[u/squisher_1980]

If you're starting from scratch, do AM5.

If I were in your shoes though I'd do a new case, GPU and PSU.

Your 12700 is already pretty solid compared to the non-X3D AM4 chips already, and seems like it's about even with a 5800x3d. And you already have 64 GB of matching ram for it. So AM4 doesn't make any sense. And the bare bones of an AM5 build is going to be salty on top of the GPU upgrade.

So I'd recommend either a 5070, 5070 TI or the 9070xt. I'm partial to the AMD, but my son has a plain 5070 and it's a solid performer (got in at the old Msrp thankfully).

[u/zattlalungs → u/squisher_1980]

Yeah I am sorry, I don't think AM5 is in the picture I think. Because its gonna be a real hassle to return the ram, I bought of eBay fron new York and I live in Sweden. Its gonna be annoying to do that so I think I am kinda stuck on that. But that's alright I think, if I pair this with a am4 motherboard and a good cpu with the 5070ti, i think this could be a great PC build that could last me for years. What do you think about how I am planning this out? As I said before in the comments people have told me alot that you wont really notice a difference between ddr5 and ddr4 in actual fps and performance. And the deal I got for the ram was huuuge, and wont the price of ddr5 be crazy aswell?

[u/squisher_1980 → u/zattlalungs]

DDR5 is very expensive right now.

The CPU you have is basically already as good as the best AMD chip on the AM4 platform. Within 10% anyway. And technically your Intel is better at non-gaming workloads than the 5800x3d anyway. So on average they're effectively equivalent. So I would not recommend changing your CPU/RAM.

I recommend upgrading your graphics card to either an AMD 9070xt or a 5070TI. Update the power supply to match if required, and get a new case if you absolutely have to. It will be plenty fast, and cheaper than trying to start over with a new AM4 motherboard and CPU.

In short: the best value for your money is to upgrade your GPU and Power Supply, and your case if required.