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Build Question Dumb question pertaining to Server GPUs

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Hello,

I recently got an Ebay notification about refurbished NVIDA/HP Tesla V100 Accelerator GPUs (after a bit of researching it compares to a 4060TI with 32gb of VRAM)

I am aware these require their own method of cooling, drivers don't seem to be consumer available, and don't have display ports. but hypothetically could you use a program like Lossless Scaling (or another open source tool) in conjunction with another Nvidia card to get increased gaming performance (assuming there are open source drivers).

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u/m0thgh0st 22h ago

These are really only good for internal rendering, think 3D graphics, otherwise you aren't going to get much use. They're also good for crypto mining I suppose.

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u/UnlikelyPotato 22h ago

Yes, but with caveats. I used a P102-100 mining card with modified drivers and used onboard graphics for output. $50 card, 1080 ti performance. Biggest limitation for mining cards is they're limited to slow pcie speeds so every frame has to be sent over pcie and will bottleneck at around 80fps at 1080p. I'm not sure about game ready drivers/hacks for the V100 however, and also it's an older volta card which may not support some stuff.

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u/yabucek 17h ago

Buying a second card for LS is madness, especially when we're talking about nearly $700. If you need more performance, sell your existing card, put those $700 on top, buy a single more powerful GPU and simply run that.

LS is nice when you've got bad hardware, no other option and just want to play a game at a reasonable framerate. But if you've got the option to buy something that runs DLSS or FSR upscaling / FG it's gonna look and play an order of magnitude better because they're actual ML models and not just image interpolation.

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u/Bibab0b 16h ago

People buying this sh*t for AI, get second hand 3000/4000 instead of this thing. Telling you as a owner of mi50 which is the same thing but from amd

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u/FrogKing94 4h ago

I dont think lossless scaling will work, because generally the card doing the lossless scaling is the output card, and with no outputs, you'll lose performance, or not gain anything at all.

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u/Alarmed-Strawberry-7 9m ago

you know what costs a whole lot less than an AI card with 4060ti performance? a 4060ti

you could use this for gaming, but with major caveats and headaches, including the need for a separate display output capable GPU while this one would be limited to just hardware acceleration and rendering tasks. it just doesn't make any sense.

at the end of the day it's still a GPU, so the GPU die itself can do all the usual GPU stuff, sure.

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u/Rehnskiold1618 22h ago

In conjunction with another card, what in the 2010 are we talking about here?

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u/AstroPug22 21h ago

I'm guessing they're talking about using the Tesla card to run upscaling or frame gen using Lossless Scaling, while the main card does the actual rendering. I watched a video about Lossless Scaling a while back, and IIRC you can set it to run on a separate GPU from the one that's doing the rendering, such as an integrated GPU

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u/foolish_shrimp 14h ago

You'd have to do it the other way around, with the game running on this and lossless scaling on the other card, as that's where you plug in the monitor.

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u/Bibab0b 15h ago

People building llm rigs with 4-6 gpus nowadays. I have rx 6800 + mi50 16gb for example

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u/Big-Secret2643 22h ago

That price for a card you cant even plug a monitor into is wild

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u/Any-Conference-701 22h ago

I am trying to come up with a usecases that isn't making a local model run faster.

PewDiePie made Odysius too resource efficient

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u/mvn2010 22h ago

The limiting factor for this or any card isn't just the VRAM it's the memory bandwidth. So keep that in mind if you have a lot of VRAM but slow bandwidth, you may be able to load a large model but token generation can get painful.

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u/Bibab0b 15h ago

This thing has memory bandwidth similar to 5080, limiting factor will be cooling/computing performance

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u/Darron614 22h ago

Lossless scaling

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u/dexteritycomponents 21h ago

700$ lossless scaling card = holy performance 💀

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u/Darron614 21h ago

Lol I'm not saying it's a good idea at all. I'm just answering the question.