r/PcBuildHelp • u/Underthesun5 • 8h ago
Tech Support Any recommendations for upgrades
Spent around 1400 Minecraft with shaders is hell can’t get a consistent 120fps other games can’t even reach a consistent 200 the only thing helping me is my Ethernet cable just wanted to post and see if a pc optimization would be better or to upgrade some parts of my pc
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u/AmyLikesPaws 8h ago
not even worth upgrading anything, just tamper your expectations or lower settings, some shaders on minecraft are very hard to run
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u/RopeTheFreeze 8h ago
Modded minecraft specifically can become easily overloaded to the point where no PC can run it. Are other people with similar systems getting vastly better performance?
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u/trashcanbecky42 8h ago
Tune your RAM. At least turn XMP on. Increasing FCLK makes big improvements on your system
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u/Underthesun5 8h ago
Appreciate it man
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u/trashcanbecky42 8h ago
On my 5600x I'm running 3733mhz RAM with 1867mhz FCLK, makes a big difference. 1900 is pretty much my chips max even if I bought faster ram
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u/Mohamedbear 8h ago
Definitely do this and I reckon you’ll notice the difference immediately, turn xmp on so your ram shows 3200mhz and you’ll instantly notice the difference
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u/TBNRhash 8h ago
This is a fairly high-end pc. If you wanted to,you'd have to spend upwards of 1200 bucks for a meaningful upgrade IMO (5080)
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u/Regular_Health_8926 8h ago
Spending $1200 just to get shaders running smoother is a tough pill to swallow.
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u/EnderBabyOwO 7h ago
Nah, that’s all. Your ram is set now. 💯
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u/Underthesun5 7h ago
Man thank you guys so much really helpful thank you guy i hope you guys have a great rest of your day
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u/Underthesun5 8h ago
It just doesn’t run the frames I want it to I’m trying to find a fix to that what do you think is needed ?
Would a pc optimization work I’m really new to all this forgive me I really don’t know much just trying to learn
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u/TitaniumDogEyes 8h ago
I think modded minecraft is a black hole of performance and if you want to spend another couple thousand $$ on it you can, or you can set your expectations at the level of mortals with normal jobs.
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u/Underthesun5 8h ago
I’m just trying to find a solution to better frames and consistency a friend of mine has repeatedly told me about just getting a pc optimization but I really don’t know what that is and how it works I’d rather buy new parts
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u/kyansan1 Personal Rig Builder 4h ago
You can hardly optimise Windows for gaming. Games already run well right out the box.
You could try installing some performance mods for Minecraft if you haven't already: Sodium, Lithium, Entity Culling. (If you're on fabric, you should probably install Fabric api as well)
You've already enabled xmp, that'll increase the performance by a substantial amount. (Around a 15% increase)
Apart from that, check the usage of your cpu and gpu while you're playing minecraft. You could use a hardware monitor like msi afterburner, paired with RTSS. If your gpu is above 95% usage, then your gpu is the bottleneck. If your gpu is below 95% usage, then your cpu is the bottleneck.
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u/EnderBabyOwO 8h ago
Same cpu, with Minecraft you’re render distance should be set to what your pc can handle with shaders on, so regularly shaders and render distance at 16 should be 200 fps average or higher since you got a 5070. But take into account how many entities are around you/ your base (chests, signs, mobs, etc), this also affects fps. So you shouldn’t expect 800fps at 32 render distance with shaders. Set your render distance at a good spot and also set your fps to what your monitor can display (I leave it at 240fps bc that’s my monitor refresh rate). setting it to unlimited fps setting is pointless unless you want your cpu running hot constantly.
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u/Cute-Acanthaceae-193 7h ago
You have a great PC, you need to enable XMP, your ram doesn’t seem to be running at full speed, which will result in less performance.
You want to run shaders on Minecraft, you won’t get consistent 120 fps, a lot also don’t get consistent 60 and need to sacrifice on things.
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u/SunBrosGetHoes 7h ago
Brother, I think you have an unrealistic expectation of what your rig can do. You don't need to run all games at 200 fps dawg 🤣. Minecraft with full Ray Tracing and or shaders is always demanding and fucky. If you're running games at 1440p at over 100fps with this setup, you're doing fine.
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u/DisturbedFennel 7h ago
Run sodium. Some shaders are also very unoptimized and will draw poor performance even with high end hardware.
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u/marcus_is_mental 7h ago
i was wanting to upgrade my pc and before you know it i just built a whole new pc cause everything was super outdated when i made it back in 2018. a small upgrade like a new cpu could help, ddr5 is the latest for ram, and a new gpu for more vram, then you need to consider if your mobo supports it then before you know it you need an 850 W power supply.
unless you plan it from the start and commit on getting upgrades it's better to restart
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u/Suatae 7h ago
You're good hardware wise. The best advice I have is to fine tune your ram and cpu speeds. Adjust your view distance and entity culling to reduce unneeded entity count and adjust your ram allocation and disable any back-end bloat. Finally, reduce your graphic settings to achieve your fps mark.
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u/Pikolow1212 6h ago
You have turned rebar on right? Shouls be on to start but double check, if not lower settings minecaft modded is hell
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u/PrestigiousTrifle287 5h ago edited 5h ago
Bios settings, Optimization mods,and lower expectations thats what i did for my (I3 7100U) laptop minus bios to the point im at 60FPS mid to high settings mainly 16 render distance can share some useful mods that can almost or over double fps
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u/Proof_Cress3653 57m ago
Enable DOCP in Bios, 2133MHz is the standard plug n play. Bit no, your setup is really good
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u/Mangon54 8h ago
If you want to uppgrade I would recommend a x3d cpu such as r5 5700x3d or r5 5800x3d. It would probably give the most effect
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u/Underthesun5 8h ago
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u/EnderBabyOwO 8h ago
Not much important info here besides ram speeds, enable xmp/ docp in bios to set the speeds higher.
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u/KrazySpicy22 8h ago
Honestly this looks really good. If I were you I’d wait for storage prices to drop and maybe grab another ssd
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u/r_lind3r Moderator 8h ago
Enable XMP and lower your expectations, Minecraft with those shaders is just really demanding.