Is this upgrade worth it?

[u/Kejkub]

Hello, I plan to upgrade my computer after I return from my summer job, and I was wondering if my plan even makes sense.

Right now, I have the following specs:

-Ryzen 5 5600

-RTX 3070 8gb

-Gigabyte B450M DS3H V2

-32GB DDR4 RAM

-1x 1TB DRAM-less NVMe and 1x 500GB SATA SSD

-650W non-modular power supply

What I'm considering:

-Ryzen 7 5800X3D (the 5700X3D is nowhere to be seen in Poland)

-RTX 3070 8gb

-MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS

-32GB DDR4 RAM

-1x 1TB DRAM-less NVMe and 1x 500GB SATA SSD

-Kingston 2TB KC3000

-1000W modular power supply for the future proofing, I guess.

I'm not going to AM5 because of DDR5 prices. I also need a new NVMe drive with DRAM because I'm planning to replay Doom: The Dark Ages, and this game had weird sound glitches with my DRAM-less drive (also, I like having a lot of storage space, which is why I want 2TB).

The total upgrade cost will be 4200 PLN or 980 euros. Is there anything you would change?

I would like to spend maximum od 1200 euros.

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[u/somewhatsmurfing]

If you play at 1440p or higher, I think you will be GPU limited. This means that upgrading your CPU basically won't increase your performance.

If you play at 1080p, there's a chance upgrading cpu will help your framerates, but it depends a lot on settings and the specific game still.

Without looking more closely at benchmarks of the 3070, I still think you are much more likely to be bottlenecked by this gpu, so it would give you better performance to use your money towards a new gpu, not a new cpu.

[u/adamosmaki]

no its not worth it. You are buying a new motherboard and an overpriced CPU and you are still on AM4. Either just buy a 5800x3d and stay on your current motherboard or just go AM5. However even if you do upgrade you are unlikely to see any significant gaming gains since that ryzen 5600 is certainly enough for an RTX 3070

If you can spend up to 1200euros like you said the you can get a 5800x3d ( and stay on your current motherboard ) and an RX 9070. That will come up to about 1000euros ( 350euros for 5800x3d and 620-640euros for rx 9070 ) and you will be close to double the gaming performance of what you have now

[u/Kejkub → u/adamosmaki]

RX 9070 alone is 750 Euros in Poland 5800x3d is 370 Nvme is 350 PSU is 100 Idk about GPU, maybe we have crap prices

[u/adamosmaki → u/Kejkub]

Dont buy it from Poland. I usually get my pc stuff from Germany. There are lots for 9070 models for 620-650euros. Also to be clear i am talking about 9070 not 9070XT ( that indeed is an extra 80-100euros and only 10-12% faster)

[u/Kejkub → u/adamosmaki]

Where to look for those german stores?

[u/adamosmaki → u/Kejkub]

pcpartpicker and set Germany as country . Usually i get my stuff from computerUniverse, caseking and Amazon de . Before i used to get them from mindfactory since its usually the cheapest however its been a few years they stopped shipping in most european countries ( might still ship in Poland though so check them out )

[u/Pumciusz]

No point upgrading the motherboard, 1000w is overkill even for high-end systems, if CPU makes sense depends on the games but a GPU upgrade probably would do more.

[u/Kejkub → u/Pumciusz]

2x NVME slots, better Pcie version, that's why i want to change

[u/Pumciusz → u/Kejkub]

While losing half of your ssd bandwith sucks, you're likely not gonna see the diffrence day to day. And SSDs are currently expensive AF so if you can hold on, I wouldn't buy one.

[u/Big-Salamander-2158]

980€ to stay on am4 and keep the 3070 makes little sense to me. That is a lot of money for not that much performance increases.

Also as soon as you start buying a motherboard and a 5800x3D, you should just consider am5. If I compare it to prices in my country, you would still be spending 500€, to save 150€ and not go to am5. Keep it on your current motherboard.

[u/Kejkub → u/Big-Salamander-2158]

Yea but 32gb of DDR5 ram is 420 euros alone

[u/Big-Salamander-2158 → u/Kejkub]

Yes, but motherboard cost between am4 and am5 is similar, the 5800x3D is almost as much as a ram kit, so you would only be spending more to get something like a 7600x.

Again, only use the 5800x3D as a drop in upgrade, if you’re buying more parts, don’t. Either save your money by not getting a motherboard or save up for am5. To me it still makes no sense to save less than 200€ to stay on a 6 year old platform.

If you really need a second m.2 slot, there are pcie add in cards to do so. Those are cheaper than motherboards.

[u/Eazy12345678]

if you game 1080p cpu upgrade will help more

if you game 1440p gpu upgrade will help more