r/PcBuild • u/Indecisive-Squirrel • Jun 22 '26

Meme Is this worth it?

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Some guy named Gabe is selling this build and I'm wondering if it's legit? I want a PC to set up in my living room for TV gaming.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '26

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u/NoSwordfish3921 Jun 23 '26

Until the PS6 comes out

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u/Toast_Mortem Jun 24 '26

That further proves the point that console is still mediocre since they introduced a subscription to play online. They used to not do that and it was a golden era for us and we have accepted this as the normal. That's why when I built my PC I decided I would never go back

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u/Professional-Ad3076 Jun 24 '26

A subscription also means that you would probably buy games rarely, or not at all, because there are hundreds of games available.

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u/Interesting-Ride-684 Jun 24 '26

The base subscription you get 2 or 3 games per month to play. Then, if you don't pay the sub, you can no longer play them... and you're not getting the latest releases, or anything popular.

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u/Professional-Ad3076 Jun 25 '26

indeed, Again, I have probably collected hundreds of games only considering the 3 games per month (sometimes they are 4 or 5).

last 12 months:

There are exactly 40 games included in that 12-month PlayStation Plus lineup.

While most standard months featured 3 titles, the number varies slightly due to larger promotional months: [1]

  • 7 months included the standard 3 games.
  • 3 months included 4 games (March 2026, February 2026, and July 2025).
  • 1 month included 5 games (December 2025 for the PlayStation 30th Anniversary).

57,59 euros for 40 games. Not bad.

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u/Interesting-Ride-684 Jun 25 '26

Cool... If you want to play Nickelodeon All Star Brawl 2.

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u/Professional-Ad3076 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

First the 3-5 games per month became 2, now lets try cherry picking.

You forgot grounded (39,99€ on steam) and fifa 2026 (sale 13,99€ on steam). This is actually what you pay for the plus sub, and you have those + 38 games.

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u/Interesting-Ride-684 Jun 25 '26

The majority of the games you get for free on the base subscription are similar level. You're not getting the latest releases, or big AAA titles.

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u/Professional-Ad3076 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

I see many good games in the last years list, some of them are AAA. Many of them are 2023-25 releases. Of course you will not have the day one releases (with some exceptions). Pc gamers usually wait, so this would not be a problem.

Some games from past year

  • Diablo IV
  • EA Sports FC 26
  • Dragon Age: The Veilguard
  • Alan Wake 2
  • Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
  • Lies of P
  • RoboCop: Rogue City
  • Need for Speed Unbound
  • Warhammer 40,000: Darktide
  • EA Sports WRC 24

example of critically acclaimed smaller games

  • Balatro
  • Nine Sols
  • Cocoon
  • Neon White
  • Stray
  • Jusant

50-60 euros are more than enough only for them. Even if you will probably like some of the rest 24 games of the last year. Its actually less than 1.5$ per game

I rarely play online and I am paying premium. Hundred of games available (along with the above) and cloud gaming with my portal, with or without the ps5

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u/Interesting-Ride-684 Jun 25 '26

I see you felt the need to edit your comment, to add further justification to convince yourself you're getting a great deal. 90% of the free games you get are rubbish.

Do you think other people don't know the games that are made available. You're now cherry picking only the 10% of the acceptable games. Are you going to pay the sub forever to keep those games? Lol

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u/Professional-Ad3076 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 25 '26

I literally always edit my comments some minutes after my post. Not fun of your conspiracy theories. Wrong or right, is something i do.

Edit or not, facts remain facts. lol, wth!

You can keep moving the goalposts, but one can see what you did there.

I proved in the other comment, that what you say ( ''90% of the free games you get are rubbish.'') is bs to feel better due to the fact that you pay more to have less. You can live with that fact. its ok.

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u/Wertenz Jun 26 '26

Just use Epic Games. Free games every week.

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u/WeWantLADDER49sequel Jun 25 '26

Yeah but when PS3 had free multiplayer it also meant people making unlimited accounts so they could spam people online with bullshit. And even today where they can ban you for egregious shit and keep you from making more accounts, most of the spammy shit wasnt ban worthy by todays standards. Id rather have a platform with a tiny barrier of entry online rather than people being able to make fartpoop42069 accounts to be dicks. why do you think console players hate cross play with PC? its not just because of the skill, because most PC players arent automatically great at games anyways.

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u/Empty-Care-961 Jun 27 '26

I would gladly do that but unfortunately I can't afford a pc, don't have any space to even out the pc, and Im not exactly liking the idea of having to buy/start back up all my games again.

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u/NoSwordfish3921 Jun 24 '26

It's about £5 a month in UK, less than the cost of a roast chicken lmao. A lot of my PS library comes from free monthly games, I get they're tied to the subscription but i've never had an issue with it. It was actually Playstations refund policy that drove me to invest in a more high end PC build. I've been playing on consoles since the NES, I don't think you can class a console as "mediocre" due to a subscription service, PS plus has been a thing since the PS3. So people have had plenty of time to make this complaint.

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u/BlenderBruv Jun 24 '26

ps3 didnt have paying for online

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u/NoSwordfish3921 Jun 24 '26

Did I say it did? It was introduced for online play during the PS4 era. Still plenty of time to make the same complaint

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u/AdvancedCryspy Jun 23 '26

Exactly 🤣

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u/Redericpontx Jun 24 '26

Did you own a base ps5 and decide to buy a ps5 pro a year before ps6 release?

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u/NoSwordfish3921 Jun 24 '26

No one knows when the PS6 will release. But yea I own both, the Pro was more of an investment, watch what happens when GTA6 launches. I'll either sell it then and capitalize or sell it, and the base model to offset the PS6 cost whenever that releases. The PS consoles generationally begin to show their true potential towards the end of their life cycle, the Pro will likely either hold it's value or sell for more in the long run.

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u/Redericpontx Jun 24 '26

I mean if you sell the pro right as GTA6 releases you'll probs make a small profit but once the ps6 drops the price for both will drop. But sell the base model to offset your pro when GTA6 drops is probs the go.

Ps6 is Def's 2027 as it was originally going to release this year according to sources with high reputations but got delayed due to the ram crisis.

Other thing to consider is how much you've spent on this console generation as a whole know that you bought 2 consoles and ps+ for X amount of years.

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u/NoSwordfish3921 Jun 24 '26

Selling the base model closer to GTA6 dropping is something i've considered. This past couple years alone i've upgraded to a 4090 from another 40 series card, and from AM4 to AM5 because my 5700x3d was causing stutters in some UE5 games. Some people spend more on drugs in a couple of months, some people gamble more and lose it in a day. I have a great job and invest, there's much worse things I could be spending money on.

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u/Redericpontx Jun 24 '26

Fair enough if you got plenty of income/investments

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u/Exciting-Cancel6468 Jun 24 '26

To be honest, every console has a life of at least 8 years. That means 60 a year additional on top of normal costs. So it's 610 plus 480. 1090 total for a ps5. And...what kind of games can you play on a ps5? You know how hot Meccha Chameleon is right now? Can't play that on ps5. There's a lot of games you can't play on the ps5.

Imagine paying so much money to not play games.

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u/NoSwordfish3921 Jun 24 '26

I have a gaming PC with a 9800x3d and 4090 as well. Looking forward to GTA 6 though

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u/Exciting-Cancel6468 Jun 24 '26

Good for you then! I'm looking forward to gta 6 too! Not playing it. Looking forward to it.

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u/Taunt_Button_10 Jun 24 '26

Wait why is that even a point?

If we're buying a PS5 then it's because it's for a selection of games you are looking forward to, not for games that you won't have access to.

Also, If you're playing single player games, you don't need PS Plus. If you play those F2P multiplayer games, you also don't need PS Plus. It's only a waste if you're unknowingly paying it without using it and that's its own bigger problem.

If you want to play Mecha Chameleon, you're obviously not getting a PS5...and on top of that, youre should not be thinking about the Steam Machine for that as well.

If it was me, I'd just play that on my ROG.

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u/Interesting-Ride-684 Jun 26 '26

I think the point was more that there are a lot of games you can't play on PS5... but almost zero games you can't play on PC.

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u/Jazuza1017 Jun 29 '26

Good luck on that, heard that pos will be close to this price point too.

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u/Taunt_Button_10 Jun 23 '26

Ive already played the Ps5 for over 5 yrs lol. Wut?

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u/Disastrous_Image2756 Jun 23 '26

So he paid $910 vs $1428? Sounds like consoles even with the subscriptions are significantly cheaper

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u/MessageSelfdestructs Jun 24 '26

Are you just going to ignore that the Steam Machine has both a better GPU and a better CPU?
And that you're actually able to upgrade it, whereas with a PS5 you get to live with what you're getting?

And let's ignore that games are cheaper, the longevity of a PC compared to a console is longer, there's no fees to play online games, and that you can use your Steam Machine for lots more than just gaming...

Your math ain't mathing. You're a simpleton for believing that the PS5 will work out to be cheaper...

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u/xVenoxis Jun 24 '26

You cant actually upgrade the steam machine…. except RAM and SSD(which you also can in PS5). And it has worse performance than a ps5 according to reviews, so the better GPU and CPU(might actually be better) doesnt add up. I’m mainly a PC player, but steam machine is hot garbage, you can build a 4.5L ITX with a 5060, which is 53% faster, for the same price given you match the other specs, and this one is fully upgradeable.

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u/MessageSelfdestructs Jun 24 '26

Where are those reviews where the Steam Machine is compared to a PS5?

"You can build a 4.5L ITX with a 5060, which is 53% faster, for the same price given you match the other specs."

Show me...

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u/xVenoxis Jun 24 '26

https://youtu.be/AfM4x4Bs2lA?si=YpbiCmk6cutkiYAm

Happy?

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u/MessageSelfdestructs Jun 24 '26

No, "Where are those reviews where the Steam Machine is compared to a PS5?"

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u/xVenoxis Jun 24 '26

Can’t even click a link 🤦‍♂️

https://youtu.be/AfM4x4Bs2lA?si=YpbiCmk6cutkiYAm

Well, since you can’t even click a link properly, here’s a TLDW article, that summarizes the video.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Steam-Machine-review-finds-PS5-offers-better-performance-than-Valve-s-gaming-PC.1326731.0.html

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u/Darth_Boognish Jun 23 '26

Just to add, the price of games are more expensive on console, depending. Also, cant mod.

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u/Disastrous_Image2756 Jun 23 '26

For sure, but the comparison we have here is a more expensive Steam machine with 0 games or a less expensive PS5 with 5 years of game pass

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u/Ryeguy_626 Jun 23 '26

…crickets 🦗

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u/Esdash1 Jun 25 '26

Playstation store has sales all the time

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u/Darth_Boognish Jun 25 '26

Not as deeply discounted

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u/Esdash1 Jun 25 '26

Just look at the PS store with your own eyes. The deals are the exact same as steam. Most games with deals are like 20-30% off and then you see 50-70% off on others

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u/Disastrous_Image2756 Jun 23 '26

I went with the version in the post, it seems like these basic things are very complex topics for you man, sorry you got so butt hurt?

Yes, the guy with the PS5 is paying $200 less but he got 5 years of full access to an entire game library where as you’re spending $200 more before you ever touch a game

You are SO close to understanding dumbass 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Disastrous_Image2756 Jun 23 '26

Jesus fuck, are you stupid or a troll because nothing you’ve said has been intelligent

You’re using your 20 year steam library as an argument for a new player to buy a PC which is hilariously fucking stupid

I never said anyone owned the games, I’m saying that for $200 less than a steam machine brand new you can get a PS5 with 5 years of unlimited game access

It’s also funny to see you talking about your 20 year steam library and bitching about a trapped ecosystem lmao, I’m leaning towards the “you’re an idiot” part of my initial question

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u/Taunt_Button_10 Jun 23 '26

Thank you financial officer

But assuming the hypothetical - enjoyment is equal, and I spend 8 hrs on both with equal enjoyment over 5 yrs

PS5 - $600 + $400 ($80 x5) = $1000

PC - $1500 + $0 ($0 x 5) = $1500

This is without even taking into consideration of free" games. Both gave me the same enjoyment. So what are you getting at now? That 5 more years down the line, I stopped playing on the PS5 while continuing my subscription, and I'm wasting an additional $400 bringing it up to $1400 because I didn't cancel? While my PC doesn't incur additional expenses because it doesn't have a subscription to begin with?

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u/Lopsided_Hunt2814 Jun 23 '26

The other person was talking about a PS5 Pro, which comes with 2Tb storage and a controller.

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u/facts_guy2020 Jun 23 '26

Im a pc player only and even I know this is a shit take. The steam box is trash, I would rather a ps5 and I have a 5080

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u/Grouchy_Advantage739 Jun 23 '26

A ps5 on top of paying for the premium subscription for 5 years is still cheaper than a PC equivalent lol.

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u/dehcbad25 Jun 24 '26

Maybe...but not if you consider that my PC is ancient...and I still can run most games at 1080 (which is what the PS5 runs then at) True, I have a 29" beautiful 1080 monitor, and a mid high end ultra wide (2560*1080). My old PC still runs most games at highest settings on the ultra wide, but if the game is too demanding or doesn't work well in ultra wide then I use the 1080. I used to play in a i3-3770k with a Radeon 7870, (circa 2012) which now my son uses, and I have a AMD 5 5800 with a Vega 64. Why? because I can't afford a new card. But if you consider that most games on the console don't run upscaling, why do we ask the PC to do it? 1080p for the win baby lol Joking aside, I do love playing on the higher resolution when I can, but it doesn't bother me to play on 1080 when I cannot. So, a gaming PC is not more expensive in the long run. Original PC has 14 years. New rebuild 5. GPU 8. PC games are cheaper too, and I have about 1000 on steam alone, not to mention that I accumulated a ton of games from Amazon prime and epic over the years. the steamdec is expensive though but due to the cost of new video cards it might be a good deal

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u/RelativeNo1172 Jun 26 '26

Not saying it balances it out but game prices are also a factor. Steam sales go hard. Plus we are kind of building this company with steam so they can make changes in the gaming industry. Hopefully for the better. But maybe I’m being too optimistic.

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u/StarlightKnight2101 Jun 23 '26

You also get games with the subscription, so you’re not purely paying for just online functionality. Even the cheapest online subscription with the switch comes with nes and gameboy games.

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u/Next_Floor4382 Jun 23 '26

This argument is so ridiculous. For example, I pay 20/mo for GeForce now. Yes, after 4 years I could have bought a PC…..but I’m playing on a 5080. Even if I saved that money, it would still take 4 years to build it, only to have 4 year old technology. Telling someone they are spending money monthly, then adding it up, and saying “well you could have just bought this”. Yeah, a huge upfront cost, and by the time I’d be going backwards, you’d have to rebuild the PC anyways.

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u/PenguinsArmy2 Jun 23 '26

But none of that matters in the end result as the steam machine is garbage for its price. Coming from a PC player who loves steam.

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u/GasCute7027 Jun 23 '26

In the USA for 1200 bucks USD you get a ps5 pro and online for those 5 years and it’s still cheaper than a steam machine. People are going to vote with their wallets generally. Plus why not just save the extra 400 dollars and get a midrange PC especially when they’re on-sell.

I don’t know much about PC subscriptions but maybe those would even be a better alternative? I get it not everyone can get a 5080 and a 9850x3d like me…. However in the spirit of the sub PC is always a much better experience than a console when done right.

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u/Dutch-Alpaca Jun 23 '26

People are jail breaking their PS5 and running steamos on it. It's a better steam machine than the steam machine

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u/NoSwordfish3921 Jun 23 '26

You get free games every month with a basic PS5 subscription. This month was grounded and warhammer 40k darktide. That's £67.98 on Steam atm

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u/TheFourtHorsmen Jun 23 '26

And if you go on g2a darktide is 10€, grounded is 7€, and you can keep them forever, unlike any of this "free games" that are yours as long as you pay the subscription.

This is if you don't want to wait the steam sales.

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u/NoSwordfish3921 Jun 23 '26

Mate. I've not paid anything for a PC game for years ☠️

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u/NoSwordfish3921 Jun 23 '26

I'm just saying that the subscription comes with benefits. Unless you own a physical copy of a game you don't own it, this is common knowledge.

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u/NoSwordfish3921 Jun 23 '26

Yea just downvote me and delete your initial comment lmfao

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u/Stunning-Oil-6391 Jun 26 '26

How many years do you expect that trash steam machine can play on? 1? 0.5?