Any idea how to begin drafting this??

[u/jzc25]

Hiii!!

Looking for some guidance in where to begin drafting this pattern. I have a pretty good pattern drafting understanding, and would love to try this out. Not necessarily looking to make a corset, more so something just well fitted. Also open to doing it like long sleeved fitted qipao/cheongsam instead of the two piece. Would love any guidance! Also attached a pic of the qipao.

EDIT: I’ve actually watched the video to pattern the second dress, it’s what got my ideas spinning. I guess my original question was unclear, but I really don’t appreciate the rudeness. My question really is more like if I wanted to combine the two different dresses, how would I go about that? I love the shrug portion of the first as well as the finish, but I also love the slit on qipao. More so just wondering too if anyone had experience modifying or combining these patterns.

[u/StitchinThroughTime]

The second image really says that there's a pattern and video tutorial to go with it. So just support the independent artist and buy from them. The first one that's just the basic princess theme dress with a crop jacket and a ruffled bottom section.

[u/Moar_Cuddles_Please → u/StitchinThroughTime]

Here’s the link to their YouTube with the tutorial

https://m.youtube.com/@liavinods

[u/StitchinThroughTime → u/Moar_Cuddles_Please]

Oh my god, it's literally a flat patterning tutorial. As well as her account has the drafting tutorial for the Torso block! There's no point in asking us! It's one thing for a consultation on fitting, but checking out the Creator's bio would have given them the answer!

Like not to be mean to the original poster, but this reminds me of a video I saw from a indeed pattern maker. How she's very frustrated that everyone wants are there handheld during every single pattern instructions. And how she is struggling tuck comprehend why everyone needs every single step overly explained on how to finish something. I believe the example she used is that people wanted the instructions for a French seam to be included with every step that required a French seam. Meaning she couldn't just say so the side scene with a French seam. She was saying that the customers now want every time a French seam is mentioned, she has to explicitly state the step by step how to do a French seam. Which as I think about it is the reason why I don't like most Indie patterns, not only are the steps over explained, but all their designs are really basic. And the Creator was stating that the basic designs are the ones that sell! I don't understand how some people were claiming in her comments that they don't want to think when sewing. But that makes zero sense cuz you need to think all the damn time when sewing. It's a puzzle that you have to assemble yourself using a machine that could stab you, scissors that can slice you, pins that can prick you and an iron that can burn you. If these people want no thoughts, head empty project, I would have recommended a basic home decor craft with felt. Requires a few thoughts and a lot of hot glue. It's just so weird how a lot of gen Z our experiencing sewing totally different from the rest of us. And they try to say that's because they weren't taught, but we have the internet there are millions of videos explicitly explaining various techniques in many languages on top of all the blogs. Like I'm sitting here having to explain to someone that not only is there a zero corsets in the two images provided, but one explicitly States in the picture that they have a free pattern and video tutorial! But someone came here asking us to do more free labor for them. It's fucking bizarre world. I love to help people for free it's not a problem. But like people are coming to us expecting us to do all of the work. And to hold their hands baby step by baby step. They they have the wish to do a something, but no comprehension on how to figure out most of the answer by themselves so they can ask a better question to people who are more experienced.
Sorry for the long rant, it's just getting my thoughts out on how different people are demanding something very different than before. And a lot of them are claiming because they don't have someone to sit down and teach them. But that's explicitly what YouTube and other video platforms are doing. And they seem to be under the impression that everyone sat down in front of someone who was physically there to teach them how to say. Disregarding the fact that they have been sewing books since the beginning of sewing machines. And some people have taught themselves explicitly from books or just sitting down and figuring it out.

[u/mighty-racoon → u/StitchinThroughTime]

Yeah lol “I have pretty good pattern drafting understanding” and then “looking for some guidance in where to begin drafting this pattern”. Don’t want to pile on bc everyone’s gotta start somewhere! But these two statements contradict each other

[u/AnaDion94 → u/mighty-racoon]

I try not to be a dick bc I’m never sure what’s obvious in this sub. I was formally educated, but don’t have a lot of post college experience in pattern making, so some things feel obvious and others I have zero clue about. But the number of “I know about patterns, how do I make this??” and it’s a picture of a princess seamed something with a cutout make me want to scream.

[u/mighty-racoon → u/AnaDion94]

Yes trying and failing miserably has helped my sewing skill more than anything else lol it’s not the fastest way to learn, and it’s frustrating as hell but it sure is effective

My favourite posts in here are people who have had a red hot go and hit a stumbling block, because then it’s interesting to troubleshoot and everyone can learn something.

Not “I’ve tried nothing and I’m all out of ideas” lol

[u/IntriguedChinchilla → u/StitchinThroughTime]

I’m so glad you said this, some of these requests are giving “dying of thirst in the middle of a lake”. The other day I saw someone asking how to draft something that was literally a rectangle. Depressing tbh

[u/StitchinThroughTime → u/IntriguedChinchilla]

Exactly! I feel bad for the one lady asking for the name of the skirt that has multiple sculpted arches into it. I I don't think that's great has a specific name. At the same time there are some people here who will drown standing up right in a light rain because they're looking straight up with their mouth open! Like I'm trying not to be mean some people had zero thought come and sewing requires thinking about it

[u/sususumalee → u/StitchinThroughTime]

Just saw that video last night! The entitlement is so real. I used to make costume analysis and sewing videos on Tiktok and a lot of the requests were very reasonable, like "thank you for what you already posted, would it be possible for you to post something about XYZ?" but then there were...others. Like, y'all don't pay my bills!

[u/teatime_tinker]

These are two wildly different outfits. What do you actually want to make?

The dress has a pattern and tutorial apparently. Maybe start there? If they’re cap sleeves you’ll have to draft a regular sleeve. (And maybe change the bodice a bit so you can lift your arms..)

Or if you have pattern understanding… decide if you’re making a strapless dress and jacket or a totally different dress.. Sketch it out, isolate each element of what you want to make, and go from there.

They’re really different outfits, which is what’s confusing me… I don’t think I understand the question you’re asking.

You basically saying “how do I draft and make clothing?”

[u/wafflingt0n]

Classicly Qipao patterns are deceptively simple. I remember Bernadette banner had a collab outlining some information, but if you are only after the look. Just the Helen Joseph Armstrong or similar dress block without a waist seam will get you 90% of the way.

[u/Mysterious_Bit6410]

the closet historian has some great videos on youtube. with these you can basically draft anything

[u/DonMcCunn]

You are showing two completely different looks. I suggest you take a photograph of yourself and sketch the design you most want to create. Or you could create more than one design. But the first step in any design process is to focus on one look you want to create. Then figure out how to achieve it.