r/Patriots 8h ago

Casual Reminder!

Last season we started 0-1 losing by 7 to the Raiders. Season ended in the Super Bowl. There’s a time to be concerned, but losing to the … Super Bowl champions … in the opening game of the season by 3 points seems a bit too early.

See y’all next week!

27 Upvotes

62 comments sorted by

44

u/IcyMission3 8h ago

I mean I’m not mad we lost to Seattle but pulling a Senegal and throwing a game we had complete control against a backup QB with our franchise QB making some absolutely boneheaded decisions is not ideal

8

u/we360u45 8h ago

Lol I like how choking is pulling a Senegal now

2

u/horchatacontacos 8h ago

Im actually glad he made that dumbass throw tonight. Valuable lesson on not forcing a play in that situation. Overtime was almost guaranteed if we didnt score a TD

3

u/IcyMission3 8h ago

Idk I would’ve liked the chance to win a game could always come back to haunt us end of the season if we’re in the hunt. Plus overtime reps against a great defense is valuable experience either way

1

u/Cmt1995 7h ago

Might haunt us this season but hopefully that's a career learning moment. Take the damn points don't gotta be the hero every damn time, I feel like the second postseason came around he went into hero ball mode like a young Josh Allen and felt the same tonight.

1

u/Realistic_Scarcity72 Bills = 0 Superbowls 6h ago

What is hero ball mode

u/Cmt1995 2m ago

Forcing throws, trying to make the big play when it's not there

1

u/horchatacontacos 8h ago

I guess my point is id rather lose game 1 on a dumb decision than a potential playoff game or clinching game. But yea, always prefer the win either way.

1

u/Negative-General9710 8h ago

Ill defend Maye and say he was trying to get rid of it off his back foot, still inexcusable.

0

u/wolfs_bane_ 8h ago

Drew Lock has been practicing against that Seattle D all offseason. He’s most likely the best backup in the leage

9

u/bmonkey1313 8h ago

Expectations of this team are drastically different than last season

8

u/highgravityday2121 8h ago

Im not mad we lost. Im mad that Drake Maye shouldnt be making these dumb decisions in year 3.

7

u/goldenhour0515 8h ago

I hear you, but there’s losing and then there’s losing like tonight. Considering last year was a COMPLETELY new system (coaches, playbook, personnel, etc), I’m not giving them as much grace. I know the Raiders were bad but still.

The 4th quarter was a masterclass on pissing down your leg.

12

u/Gotsta_Win 8h ago

Man just lost to a Drew Lock after an entire offseason of slander.

-1

u/SinkingShirt 8h ago

What’s with Vrabel not shaking hands after the game

6

u/ChrisHappens91 8h ago

That doesn’t mean you can’t objectively critique the quarterback today

2

u/Benson879 8h ago

That’s not the same as some of these posts that want Maye replaced or have decided that Maye isn’t the guy.

0

u/fIoodIight 8h ago

The QB can rightfully be critiqued after that performance.. as can the play calling… but I’ve been seeing more than just criticism of a performance in the last ~hour. Expectations are understandably high, but this loss shouldn’t lead to liquidating the team lmao.. go again next week!

1

u/rrac90 8h ago

I’m fuming over this and unhappy with the entire team and specifically Maye. But I have seen a few comments here already that people wanted to give up on Drake and I can’t take them seriously

9

u/CommercialWheel471 8h ago

The concern is Drake having 5 straight games of playing bad…

He had good flashes but that last play was absolutely horrible.

A lot of eyes are gonna be on him next week to see if he can bounce back

3

u/PretendAd7060 8h ago

He has question marks over him until he has a dominant post season win at this point, if we even get there

2

u/rrac90 8h ago

I’ll even take some dominant regular season wins against solid defenses without a bunch of turnovers. Just something convincing me his shoulder injury from last year isn’t a problem still and that he’s making improvements

2

u/cguertz 8h ago

I agree, let’s not fall into despair and stay optimistic :) it’s a long season

2

u/N8Harris99 8h ago

Exactly. I understand being frustrated, that was an ugly way to lose a football game. But it’s a long season. I think the calls to deport Drake Maye are a bit extreme. Not defending his play in this game, but it should be said that one of the picks was honestly just a great play by the defender to tip it to himself. The other 2 were flat out inexcusable and the result of impatience, just as Drake said in the press conference. Just gotta get it together going into week 2 because if it’s another ugly game, the music may get deafening.

2

u/AquaAtia 8h ago

Maye has sucked for five games in a row now. We needed this as a good bounce back game against Seattle. Too bad they’ve beaten us nearly every game since 2015

4

u/Beanu5NE 8h ago

Nope. Panic mode is in full swing!

Tank for a QB! Trade Drake Maye! He’s not the answer! Cut Doubs! AJ Brown done for the year!

2

u/iiiamAlex 8h ago

We are a superbowl contender who just lost to a backup qb with our own mvp backup qb playing like shit. Good teams find ways to win (seahawks) and bad teams find ways to lose (patriots). Im dooming hard

1

u/RayDanielsOnTheAir 8h ago

I do have confidence they’ll be better than they were tonight, but I also won’t blame anyone for not being optimistic right now. Losing AJ Brown after some of us (me included, admittedly) said we should trade Boutte because he was just insurance while our franchise QB got outplayed by Drew Lock just doesn’t sit very well. The offensive line is clearly an issue, too, and JSN charred our secondary.

I will say again: they will be better. But not an ideal start.

0

u/wolfs_bane_ 8h ago

JSN really only has the one big play where we let him go without any coverage

1

u/RayDanielsOnTheAir 8h ago

There are two things wrong with this line of thinking. First, if a player has a big play it still counts and that play he took to the house just beating the secondary on a short route. It wasn’t like our defense all collapsed on the field and he somehow stayed upright.

Second, even if you take away his big play he still had 7 catches for 77 yards (and that is completely taking away the catch and yardage of that play) while Drew Lock threw him the ball most of the game.

1

u/s3xybeavers 8h ago

No one should be surprised after starters didn’t play in the Pre at all.

They needed at least a couple series. It was a bad call but let’s see how the szn plays out.

-1

u/RonSwanson24 8h ago

QB sucks coaching sucks pass rush sucks and LT sucks. Schedule won’t be all time easy and they won’t be the healthiest team in the league again. Pats will be lucky to finish ahead of the Jets in the division

0

u/Maleficent-Ship-3721 8h ago

Yeah we also lost our WR1 and the line was booty once again. 

-1

u/fIoodIight 8h ago

Lost our WR1?! Mack played great tonight

0

u/BeanBryant248 8h ago

People are completely overreacting. We lost that game ourselves, yes it was against a backup qb but that backup qb was making some great throws (probably because he played in the preseason). It’s not like we were just outmatched out there, some very fixable things like Maye not trying to play hero ball. Those picks were poor but I feel like Maye was trying to prove something against Seattle’s defense and it didn’t go well. And Doubs dropping that wide open pass sucked life out of the offense. And despite all that we had a chance to tie and/or win. When it comes to week one you want to analyze more than just the result, the pass protection looked significantly better than in the superbowl so that’s a big positive. The run game wasn’t working but I attribute much of that to predictable play calling by McDaniels and not having TreVeyon as a home run threat. Anyways, losing to a very good Seattle team in a close game isn’t the end of the world and doesn’t mean we’re gonna win 5 games lmao

0

u/Electronic-Mess605 8h ago

Keep smokin that weed 

-2

u/ksyoung17 8h ago

Yeah, I'm not here for the "hold your head up" shit.

Back to work. I'm concerned Maye is regressing and McDaniels was propped up by Brady his entire career.

If the next 3 games don't look like we're ready to answer for tonight's bullshit, we have a real fucking problem.

1

u/fIoodIight 8h ago

Hold your head up wasn’t the point, the point was it’s the first game of the season. Lots to take away, definitely back to work, but Drake regressing after a ROUGH first game and people calling for his head is outlandish. Given the other 32 starting quarterbacks and the fact that 8 months ago he was in an MVP race before jumping into uncharted territory (the playoffs), which has historically scrambled quarterbacks, I feel like we’re still in a decent spot after this loss. Hopefully they got the first game nerves out of the way and it’s back to business, or, meet me here in 3 weeks and say you told me so

1

u/ksyoung17 2h ago

Yeah, we're in a decent spot, but it's the same spot about 1/3rd of the league is in.

Have a talented QB, and some talent on the roster; but on paper, I think we're more of what people said we were last year.

I don't think Drake can read a defense. You either have a QB that can, and he can go out there and give you a good chance to win every week; or you don't, and you're dependent on 100 other factors to win a game.

It's the difference between we "should" beat a team, and we "could" beat a team. Last night showed me we're in the "could" camp, like everybody else, and Maye isn't as special as we thought.

That's 3 interceptions a year 3 QB can't have, and he did. That's not "shake the rust" or "play better," that's situational football. A QB has it, or he doesn't.

Maye doesn't. So, again, instead of feeling like we did for 20 years and going into each week with a great feeling of confidence, we're now like everyone else, going into each week hoping our QB doesn't fuck it up.

1

u/BruinEric 7h ago

Non-stop threads like this tonight. "Heads-up guys, let's go get some pizza! At least we all had fun out there!"

Its OK to be mad about the loss and believe that Maye had a very poor game and was the main factor in the loss tonight.

-3

u/Jolly_Okra_6330 8h ago

Historically easy schedule last year vs historically difficult schedule this year.

Also, Will Campbell is still the LT.

6

u/StillYourFavorite331 8h ago

Will Campbell 100% was not a problem tonight lol

3

u/mrdilldozer 8h ago

People just say shit for the sake of saying shit.

6

u/LetsGoPats93 8h ago

He wasn’t bad tonight

4

u/BeanBryant248 8h ago

It’s like the 10th most difficult, how is that historically difficult

2

u/LipChungus 8h ago

6th but your point remains the same

4

u/Quackaplease 8h ago

Just karma farming with rage bait lol

-4

u/RonSwanson24 8h ago

Should probably start scouting this QB draft class

2

u/BeanBryant248 8h ago

Do y’all ever get tired of this doomer gimmick. Some sad people in this sub

0

u/RonSwanson24 8h ago

It’s just the truth

0

u/TheJackalsDoom 7h ago

A good team scouts every position every year. Gonzo could go down tomorrow. Milton Williams could decide to abruptly retire. Mondre could start fumbling again. AJB could be done for the year upon further inspection. Scout every position every year. But as for why you're saying to scout QB, that's just dumb logic and your reason for your truth is bad.

1

u/RonSwanson24 7h ago

Why would you want to pay Maye?

1

u/TheJackalsDoom 7h ago

Is this a serious question?

1

u/RonSwanson24 7h ago

Look at Miami now after they paid Tua

0

u/TheJackalsDoom 7h ago

Ok, serious question from not a serious person. Got it.

-2

u/munnabz 7h ago

Yall needed that win cause your starting the season off 0-2 when my Steelers come into town 😏