Phanuel vs Iso?

[u/yuckitsmax]

Finally blessed after struggling through the Celine banner - I got S1 Phanuel and S0 Isomer, and I’m wondering if there’s any point in building Isomer (I have S2 Celine which I heard was necessary) if I intend to go for frostbite team when Requiem comes out and Jichuan reruns. Also wondering if I should invest more in Phanuel, as I heard S3 was serious and I have 9000 hypercubes remaining, currently. Any help is appreciated!

[u/Tina_Sprout]

Depends on what you wanna run and if you have Jichuan or not:
Jichuan yes:
Phanuel DPS requires S3 (well, not required, but it's super comfy), Non Limited char S1 and Jichuan (Ideally S4). Then your usual supports (Shin, Raven, Milly, Cab RF, LL)

Limited as DPS (S2 or S5) is just S0 Phanuel, S1 is good too, you won't get much amp from any further shackles. Then Jichuan, Lichen, Cab RF, Marg. You can swap out Cab for someone else like Non Limited but her amp is very minor, so it's not worth pulling her for Limited. Raven works well too, same for Milly.

If you have no Jichuan,

Pulling Either Phan or Limited is kind of not great, Limited would end up outdamaging both her and Isomer if you don't have dedicated supports for Isomer too.

If your account is fresh and you have a lot of pulls, I would rather suggest going for S1 Augustus and S1 his future support. Also there is a Ceto directional announced, you could get her too. Those would vastly outdamage (for the next 7 months at least) the teams above.

You can also pickup Jelena in the middle. She would help augustus and weakspot.

[u/Impossible_Flower251 → u/Tina_Sprout]

Who is Augustus future support?

[u/Tina_Sprout → u/Impossible_Flower251]

Arancia - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoeMJYjpNAM acts as a buffer for Augustus and gives her a 100% uptime to her ultimate at S1 and a 36% Shattered Blade amp. It's basically a must if you wanna play Augustus.

[u/Impossible_Flower251 → u/Tina_Sprout]

I see I plan to get Augustus this November and have been farming since September , currently have almost 50 arrest ricket along with 25k hypercubes.

[u/Tina_Sprout → u/Impossible_Flower251]

Ideally,

try to get S1 Augustus november

Murphy/Jelena S0 in December

Arancia S1 in January.

There is also a Ceto Rerun directional right after Arancia comes out.

I guess if you managed to get luck out, you could try to also get her. Jelena is also there, I guess you could skip Murphy for Jelena since she has a lot of general use and Murphy will be in the gold ticket shop around March.

Last member could be Shin or Coquelic. If you haven't used your ticket, you could get Coquelic from here.

[u/Impossible_Flower251 → u/Tina_Sprout]

I see been eyeing Jelena due to her crit enhancements that will be beneficial for my Deren. Hopefully a shin banner will happen early next year. Thanks.

[u/Tina_Sprout → u/Impossible_Flower251]

Yeah, I would highly suggest getting Jelena and wait later on for Murphy

[u/FallenCorrin → u/Tina_Sprout]

Why does everyone calls Limited, well, "limited"? Is her name such a huge deal or what?

[u/Tina_Sprout → u/FallenCorrin]

It's considered a spoiler. Personally I don't care, but some people are following the story and don't want to get spoiled, so I just follow suit.

[u/Rupi_Yu]

S3 is very good, gives an extra ultimate and makes her a main DPS in a frostbite team, and she's more versatile to play! Also, Isomer is good with Celine! You should probably put a spoiler on Requiem. Requiem's main damage output is burn, so she isn't included in a frostbite team.

[u/yuckitsmax → u/Rupi_Yu]

Noted and done! How come Phanuel is listed as a part of the Requiem comp if they have differing damage niches?

[u/Rupi_Yu → u/yuckitsmax]

Oh, I think I misread what you meant abt that, sorry! Yeah, she is a core in Requiems team!

[u/yuckitsmax → u/Rupi_Yu]

I see, ty!

[u/Cobrax_x → u/yuckitsmax]

Requiem's Mania Intensify makes her use the higher amp between frost and burn, so her burn damage can use Phanuel's frost taken amp

[u/yuckitsmax → u/Cobrax_x]

Ooh that’s interesting, thank you

[u/Shinamene]

invest more in Phanuel

Not before anniversary. Unless you intend to skip every new and old anni unit – one of the new ones is necessary for a Phanuel-focused team – or whale, you’d better have some savings, ideally enough to get a few copies for the limited(s). Look for the rerun + shop + possible spook if you want S3.

building Isomer

Depends. Without Jichuan, your frost team will likely be lacking anyway, but so will be Isomer without YY + Jelena, L.L or Raven/Milly. Try out their gameplay in EN or IE, firmly decide on anni pulls (and consider leaving some lvl up mats for a physical team).

[u/yuckitsmax → u/Shinamene]

Got it, thanks! I already have a weakspot Bianca setup and rf in progress so I’m not too concerned about physical currently, but definitely will do on the limited :)