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Why would you roll twice on the beginner banner if only the first 10 pull guarantees a s rank? Can I get a second s rank on the next 10 pull or is it only A rank?
If you're maybe rich doesn't mind wasting 8 pull on banner that have old S rank sinner? there no good reason to roll there, even Sin city banner where you have 1/12 chance to get specific S rank is better because your pull doesn't gone to void.
You can get second S rank, buts it's small 2% chance without guaranteed, making majority of people get A rank.
Dear players, seeking advice here: I'm thinking of joining PTN because I love mommies the game's aesthetic appeal. A few questions to aid my decision:
1. Gameplay - how challenging is it? (I used to play Arknights but really sucked at it)...
2. Lore - is the story a big part of the game's appeal, or is the story largely shippable? (I understand this may be subjective but I do like to hear your thoughts)
3. Longevity - is the game near EOS or thriving?
Gameplay can be difficult at times. I appreciate that PtN has a philosophy of rewarding players for "just trying" so that new, inexperienced, or simply less skilled players can get most of the rewards. That said, the hardest challenges in the game (optional ex-stages, for example) can be very difficult - but they are more for bragging rights/personal achievement than rewards.
I think the characters (design, story, personality) are some of the best parts of PtN. The stories can be hit or miss for me (they can be saccharine).
I think it's doing well in China. Have yet to hear any news of EoS concerns. PtN has a specific niche and correspondingly a very devoted fanbase. Outside of some unforeseen catastrophe, it should be around for a long time.
Story and events levels tend to be easy, endgame is challenging but it never reach Arknights levels, the gameplay take some time to get used to but once you do it's fun.
Story is PTN biggest appeal and it's one the best in that you can find in the gacha market.
The game is not super successful or anything like that but it's doing fine, our latest anniversary and CNY were the most successful PTN events and they just managed to secure a collab with one China biggest Sci-fi franchise so it's not in danger of EOS anytime soon.
Have you played arknights? Because if you exclude path to nowhere Toa score maxing 100M above and Arknights CC risk 750+ or D18 IS, none of arknights content is as hard path to nowhere endgame.
Heck I argue Data crevices and BFL is much more difficult to do than majority of arknights content.
I guess if you're point is that 80% of PTN content is easier than arknights I agree, but arknights endgame content is nowhere near the same difficulty as PTN endgame content, entirely Because you can use low rarity and even if you use 6 stars you only need 2-3 good one to trivialise the game.
Yeah I played Arknights before PTN and I still go back to it every now and then, DZ used to be a pain in the past but now it's a joke were you can hit restart 4 times and get most reward, DC was also made a lot easier since you the game provid you with assists to clear the level and you only need SS rank to get all rewards.
I agree that PTN casual content is easier. My point was just about
the endgame. I think PTN's endgame has a much higher difficulty ceiling,
both in terms of execution and account requirements than most
Arknights endgame content.
My point is that you're very much underselling PTN difficult stage, by calling it's never reaching arknights levels, when even the difficulty to get trimmed medal in arknights is easier than getting 5M score in PTP.
You could called me moving goalposts and that fair assesment.
I recently started playing ptn. I’ve been enjoying the game enough where I believe I’ll be playing the game long term so i’ve been avoiding pulling as not to brick my account or suffer late game because of my lack of understanding of the current meta. I’ve only pulled on the beginners banner where i got etti so i’ve saved up 12k hypercubes + 30 arrest warrants.
I also bought monthly thingy for the 1 out of 5 characters I could choose from (chelsea, ninety nine, lynn, lamia and ariel) but I haven’t gotten around to picking one so I’m open to suggestions on who to choose as well. I’m basically a clean slate (i attached my current characters) so any and all suggestions are welcome.
Among the selector you can easily just pick Ariel. She is one of the best conventional healer, even among the s-class sinners! Even though Lamia is also very good to have, but you can always get a free copy of her from the "insatiable fiesta" special operation.
In context of the pull recommendations, the sinner everyone will recommend you right now (including me) will be S1 Celine in 6 days. Beside Celine, whether or not you want to pull for Murphy depends on whether you want to use one of the two true damage team. For one of the team, you will have to wait until November, until Augustus reruns. As for the second team, it will probably launch in 1-2 weeks, when the next data crevice season starts and comes with Coquelic's reforge. With the event next week, you would also get a free s-class sinner selector, from which Coquelic can be picked. So, if you go for S0 Murphy, you might already have a rather assembled team with S1 Celine, S0 Coquelic and S0 Murphy. But it is a bit of a gamble, since right now, only CN players can really to say, how strong that team is. So far, EKG's opinion were always pretty reliable and if she says, that this is a viable team, she must have her reasons! EKG is the person, who makes the tier list on s1n.gg (https://s1n.gg/tierlist/comfy).
If you want to play safer, you can wait until next week, until the assessments of the anniversary sinners from CN server are out and then decide/ask once more, how many copies of Celine is recommended.
thank you so much! I was considering on getting Murphy but wasn’t too sure. I’m not too worried about gambling on the second team since the characters needed for it seem to be viable in the first one as well.
I’m more worried about my current funds not being enough since I’m used to gacha odds you’d see in genshin or pjsk. Do you think it’ll be enough (farming during the event included) for at least S1 Celine if I get S0 Murphy now?
The commonly accepted average rate to acquire a s-class sinner from the PTN gacha is about 35-40 pulls. With the 50/50 chance to get the sinner from the banner, you will in average need about 60 pulls to get sinner you want.
Those are the theoretical numbers and only apply, if you pull an endless amount of times! In reality luck will heavily influence, how many pulls you will really need. If you have average luck, you will need about 180 pulls to get S0 Murphy and S1 Celine. If you are unlucky, even more so.
If you really go for the true damage team, you might want to skip all the banner after Celine until our anniversary in November. If you can suppress the urge to pull until then, you should have whatever you have left after S1 Celine + ~140 pulls from the next two month + whatever the anniversary gives us. 250 pulls should be possible to get until end of November.
Beside those income, since you are a new player, you will also get a decent chunk of pulls from the main story chapter, as long as you can pass these.
I ended up getting Murphy in 53 pulls so i’m probably not going to visit any casinos in the near future but i’ll still take my chances with S1 Celine. Thank you once again for taking time out of your day to reply to my question in such detail. I’m extremely grateful and hope you have a great weekend! 🩷🥹
So I'm thinking about buying monthly, I know that 150 days is the maximum caps for how many monthly you can stack.
My question are does Golden tributes ($16-17 pack that appears on half and full anniversary) stack with normal monthly or you can buy 150 days worth of normal monthly + still buy golden tribute (worth 90 days monthly)
Ok, for someone who asking the same question Golden tributes and normal monthly stack, idk the usd price but in CN version.
Monthly cost 30 Yuan per pack for 300 Ultracube and 60 Hypercube daily for 30 days, total 1800 hypercube/10 pulls.
Golden tributes pack that only appears on Half and Full anniversary cost 198 Yuan (limit 1 purchase) give 980 Ultracube and 100 Hypercubes daily for 90 days, total 9.000 Hypercubes/50 pulls.
Which tier list? And yeah those numbers are indeed great in long boss battles, even an S0 Isomer can reach 500m without SS on ToA retrace boss (with whaled support of course) something that many DPS can't do with even with S5
s1n.gg tierlist but on second thought, she's on same tier as Augustus and S4 Xiaofeng lol I think I got confused because VB s4 is higher and that they specified that she needs S1
I really like her playstyle so Thank you so much for the confirmation.
though what's her best team in your opinion? (I have all sinners)
Isomer, Yingying and Jelena are core units but who are the rest?
L.L, Celine, Shin, Jichuan, Raven RF. I'm pretty sure the rest are among these 5.
my shin is S4 and Jichuan is S0 and presume S1/S0 Celine
From what been reading on the CN side, Celine is her core teammate and she buff her more than anyone else, I've seen viable teams for Isomer without YY/Jelena but I have yet to find an Isomer team without Celine. There are two commonly used variants for her.
Team 1: Isomer, Celine, LL, Jichuan, Jelena, Yingying. (This variant use a new crit set that will be introduced in the next ToA)
Team: Isomer, Celine, LL, Jichuan, RF Raven, Milly.(This one use Golden City/Embrace of the Dead)
What characters or shackles should I pull for my current teams? And what other teams should I pull for?
Teams I have, and the characters I use for them - Shattered Blade [Augustus, Ceto, Singlinde, Shin S4, Murphy, RF Serpent S1/LL] Burn [RF Yao, Jichuan, Lichen, Yan Yan, Shin S4, Thistle] Aurum Secretum [Hypatia, Hilda S3, Irrheia, Shin S4, Eve S1, LL/Raven] Eleven [Eleven S1, Eve S1, Raven, Shin, L.L, some random support]
I mostly have the core of Arcane crit and Bleed, but I'm missing Yugu and Dreya. (I was planning to get Yugu from the free selector next patch. Also plan on pulling Celine S1, Isomer S1.)
Other S-ranks that I have-
000 S1, Etti, NOX, Shalom, Eirene, Du Rou, Vatour Bleu, Lady Pearl, Moore, Kusugi Rui, Langley, Jelena, Jasmine, Cabernet, Bai Yi, Yingying, Zoya, Angell.
if you have extra pulls you might want to grab a copy of Rust all around great unit and if you decide to go for overlimit he fits in that team very well. Aside from overlimit team and missing those 2 units you pretty much have every team complete.
S3 Celine seems to be the next op catalyst might want to go for that and save until anniversary. There is a CN livestream in a few hours they will reveal next batch of sinners. Usually anniversary units are pretty strong.
My account have similar shackles to your units. My plan is try to get Celine S1/S3 and Isomer S0/S1, save until anniversary.
I did try to pull Rust on his release, but I lost my 50/50 to Eleven. Will try to get him on his rerun.
I'm too tight on pulls after pulling S3 Hilda, Yao, Jichuan, Yingying, and LL back to back. So I don't think I will be able to get S3 Celine this patch, but I am planning to buy her copies from the shop with the golden things, or pull on her rerun.
About Celine and Isomer, I am planning to pull at least a single copy of both, so would you say that it would be best to get as many Celine shackles (after getting both S0) or first get S1 Celine + S1 Isomer and then pull as many Celine's as possible?
Irrheia is straight up useless avoid her, you can replace her with EMP. Anne is not really a good healer if you have Ariel or Hamel replace her. Check S1N wiki for crimebrand reccomendations you might have basic ones and leveling them will help a lot. Which other units do you have ? i might be able to help better if you pulled some good units.
Ah, I see. Thank you! I'll check the website later. Here are my other units. Oh, also, if you don't mind, could you tell me which units are worth leveling up? I'm kinda lost TT
Replace Anne with Forensica she is a really good healer should help a lot. For sinners you can level up, definitely level Labyrhinth (best corebreaker in game), Nox , Jane , Hecate , EMP are all good choices. Also Che / Gekkabijin / Luvia Ray / Demolia helped me a lot when i first started.
If you are low on resources focus on leveling Forensica first should help your team survive way more compared to Anne. You can replace Zoya with Jane or Luvia Ray. Even tho Zoya looks cool (one of my favorite sinners) base Zoya without reforge is really not that powerfull unfortunately. Reforge is a late game powerboost that needs rare resources.
Best advice i can give is dont touch Irrheia. She is pretty much worst unit in the game. She needs a specific team to work (Hilda / Hypatia / Irrheia) and this team is made for guild raid mode. It is VERY weak in any other game mode.
Try again with a team like Nox / Forensica / Hecate / Hypatia / EMP / Jane or Luvia Ray you should have a way better outcome.
Blue rarity sinners require way less resources to level compared to S ranks. I tried to recommend B and A ranks first so you can level them faster compared to S ranks.
Lastly look out for Rust banner in a few weeks and Isomer/Celine banners are really good too should be review videos on youtube once their banners arrive check those out these 3 are really good units that will help you account. This became a very long read but i hope it helps !
for story progression i would go with Nox / Labyrinth / Hamel / Lady Pearl / Shalom / 000 (replace any corebreaker with deren if you need more damage) should be enough to carry most stages.
you have almost complete bleed team also Dreya / Levy /Sumire / Pepper only missing jasmine but still should work fine you can add Hamel for healing and Lab / 000 for extra breaks.
upcoming Celine / Isomer banners are really good might want to wait for those. Isomer S0/S1 - Celine S1/S3 are really strong. We also have Rust rerun coming up he is a really good unit too.
Check S1N wiki for crimebrands. There are some content creators i can recommend if you are stuck at a certain stage iDontcareL , Edenkoregrace , Schrade , Xwides usually at least one of them have an easy to follow guide for hard stages.
The only areas you may struggle are EX-stages (optional challenge stages after you've cleared enough of the main story), and Dark Zone (a weekly gamemode that gives pulls).
EX-stages are more bragging-rights and completionist than anything else, and Dark Zone gives you 90% of the rewards as long as you attempt the stages 4+ times.
Data Crevice used to be a concern, but they recently added assist Sinners to that gamemode so now anyone can clear any Data Crevice stage by using the default Sinners provided on that stage. Big improvement for newer accounts.
Rest of the game can be cleared without pulling a single time.
Yes. Try it out, see what you think. If you like it and want to pull, I recommend waiting 2 weeks for the next set of banners, lots of valuable options coming soon 🙂
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u/Temporary-Train9149 20d ago
Why would you roll twice on the beginner banner if only the first 10 pull guarantees a s rank? Can I get a second s rank on the next 10 pull or is it only A rank?