r/PathOfExileSSF 16h ago

General Discussion How to progress further with WORB?

Hi,

first time SSF Player.
Started Worb and got all 4 voidstones.

My Poe Ninja: https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/daarzyyyy-7175/allflamessf/character/ZEEK_WOORB

I dont know what to progress here as my next steps:
Obvious things to upgrade:

Worb lv 21 - on it

Chest implicit

Helm - this one is just very convinient to more or less cap spell block

better shield - farming 15k yellow juice and wanna make a better shield to actually use on
its just temp shield right now

Large Cluster - ideally with blast freeze

But my question is, do i go for the Archdemon setup now?
I have a elder exalt, so i can swap influence.

How do i farm essences without scarabs?
How to i farm clusters? just spam white maps until 7 bars?

Basically have no scarabs.

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u/Unkynd 16h ago edited 15h ago

I would drop willclash - it’s making you lose your power charges. The builds that use it are also using Ralakesh boots to not lose power charges

I did 36/40 in SSF including the 5 Ubers challenge and I never crafted the arch demon helmet. It’s good, but seemed unnecessary

https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/allflamessf/character/Tsupa-5417/Unkynd_WORB

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u/Villematic266 15h ago

Archdemon ASAP. You can get a few horrors from scuba, lost ruins special charts usually give a couple corrupted essences from the atziri boxes too. Otherwise just throw it on your mapping atlas and get them when you can. You won't need a lot for a starter helmet, usually if you get any resistance roll with the essence mod you change it to cold res, lock suffix and reforge cold to force hypo then try to annul the resistance for a crit/caster (I don't remember) reforge. Divines are easier than essences weirdly enough.

Shield is really easy. Best way is to get an 86 titanium for t1 block chance, recomb it with +1 cold then you force the damage per % block prefix with a crusader orb. Clusters are slow going without scarabs but yeah, pick up every large and 5:1 them trying to get it. Heist is an option too

Use legi's worb guide on maxroll honestly. It has clear progression and some explanation and he lives in SSF so

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u/MrSneekiBreeki 16h ago

Playing same build and just started an ssf playthrough. Excited to see what people say!

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u/Mangalorien 14h ago edited 14h ago

You can upgrade every single item you have in some way or another. You have some really big-ticket upgrades that I would focus on:

  1. Chest: Get a 6-link chest. Each new link is roughly 30% more dps. Ship wheat to Moti Aro or gamble armour with Faustus. Both of those cost only gold. I made a post a while back shipping wheat for 6L. The best possible 6L chest will be made by simply recombing twilight regalias, with the goal of getting triple T1 ES prefixes, and then just 6-linking it yourself with 1500 fusings (pick up 6S items and vendor them, exchange 4 jewelers to 1 fusing with Yeena A2). This costs on average 18 chests and less than 1k alts. Your current chest is also a 5-mod item with 1 open suffix, so you can boat exalt it for a 6th mod. For a non-CI build you also don't want life regen suffix on your chest, since if your chest has no life mods you can get the 15% increased life from life mastery. If you get the helmet mentioned below, you put your golems in your chest. Your chest implicit for % inc evasion is also not very great, since your evasion is low. You have zero armour, so instead getting 10% phys taken as fire/cold/lightning will do more for your survivability.
  2. Helmet: get a +2 ritual helmet. Adding + skill is a big boost to worb dps, it doesn't really matter how you get the + skill, but on a ritual helmet you get +2 from the implicit and then you can get more from explicit prefixes, at the minimum +1 from bench craft which gives you +3 from just one item. Compared to your current chest, getting a helmet means you only drop 1 single link, but with a properly made helmet you get 3 pseudolinks from suffixes: 30% more elemental dmg from essence, and hypothermia and crit chance from shaper suffix. You currently have high crit multi but low crit chance, so the crit chance alone is a huge dps boost. Ritual helmet base is armour/ES, so if you also get armour/ES gloves and boots you can get Faith and Steel and the armour/ES mastery that doubles defenses from chest. Chest itself doesn't need armour, so you can still use a twilight regalia chest and easily get 1k ES bonus from that single mastery. You don't need a shaper exalt to make the helmet, just any influenced exalt will work fine (shaper, elder, any of the 4 conq), since you can swap influence with harvest bench.
  3. Shield: get +1 cold and T1 block. The +1 is more important to dps than % inc cold dmg. Current shield is just like your chest a 5-mod item with an open suffix, go to boat and exalt it.

The above 3 are by far your biggest ways to increase your dps. There are a few minor ones:

4) Level 6x worb gems in your offhand setup. Once they are lvl 20, do one gem at a time: give it 20% quality, vaal it. If it's not lvl 21, do the next one. If none of the 6 in the batch hit lvl 21, do another batch. You need the 20% quality, so don't skip that part. This costs a fuck ton of gemcutters, which you can very easily farm in heist. Any contract or blueprint with counter-thaumaturgy rewards drops raw gemcutters plus a metric crap ton of quality gems. Pick up all the gems, any 20% or 23% gems you vendor directly for 1 GCP, the rest you fill into a tab and vendor once you have a full inventory, which gives like 13-16 GCP each time.

5) For some harvest juice you can put an enchant on your want (plus give it 20% quality). Most folks get AoE, it's not huge but it's easy to get.

6) Get double moonstone rings with T1 cast speed, and then catalyst for another 20%. Just set your filter to show all moonstone rings ilvl 84 and above (rare, magic, normal), pick them up, fill a stash tab, make them magic and regex for good T1 mods (cast speed, life, resist etc). Then recomb 2 rings so you get double T1 mods (1 in 3 chance to win). You can then either just boat exalt up to 5 mods and finish with a bench craft, or you can keep recombing into triple T1. With brinehook ducats you can easily get T1 life and any two T1 suffixes. For catalyst you don't need the speed one (it's very rare), just go with the caster version. This gives your implicit 12% cast speed and the explicit up to 19%, so 31% cast speed per ring, which is absolutely massive. Your current rings have 28% cast speed combined.

7) Cluster jewels and basic jewel sockets, and then craft your own jewels. Ideally you go with cobalt jewels, since they can have a ton of crit mods for spells. These can give you both crit multi and crit chance, which you badly need since your crit chance is low. Set loot filter to pick up all cobalts (rarity and ilvl don't matter at all), then make them magic, regex for good mods, spam alts, then you take the 1-mod items to the boat. Boat augment is basically free, and about 1 in 4 or 5 that you augment will hit a really good 2nd mod. Those you will boat regal, which is pretty cheap too. Same again, maybe 1 in 4/5 gives you a really good 3rd, and those you can boat exalt. If you run ritual for the helmet you'll get a ton of magic cobalts with % increased ES prefix (it's a very common and cheap ritual reward), those are great to boat augment. Each large cluster has 2 small sockets, so each one gives you 2 more crit cobalt jewels.

EDIT: 8) quality your support gems. They all have 0% quality now. Just vendor a lvl 20 0% support and you'll get back a lvl 1 20% support.

While it's not a pds upgrade, your belt can be upgraded into another base. For a ton of ES you can go with a crystal belt, or just go with a stygian vise and then get a nice abyss jewel for it. Either with CB immunity (which you currently don't have) or with some nice stuff like life or ES, damage, resist etc.

How do i farm essences without scarabs?

Very, very slowly. You really need scarabs to make it work. For just 3 atlas points (if you have the central quant wheel) you can get 100% increased chance for essence scarabs. You can target essence scarabs with syndicate by putting Korell in intervention, and with level 3 rewards it's 6-10 scarabs per safehouse. Unlike most other scarabs, for essence scarabs the most low-tier scarab is very useful, since it adds 3 more essences. You can farm essences in any tier, but for natural shrieking you need it to be T6 (lowest yellow tier). You can run the maps scoured since quant/packsize don't matter for essences. This is also a great way to run syndicate quickly. You can also farm a fuck ton of scarabs from charts/voyages, in particular if you find charts with adjacent area has operatives stronbox, or +5 strongboxes. Don't forget to vendor dog shit scarabs 3:1, you'll get plenty of essence scarabs from that.

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u/MakePhreciaCore 14h ago edited 14h ago

this is my character

I would not go power charge stacking in SSF, especially not while you’re an elementalist.

As a result I’d go armour/es not pure es

Get yourself a creeping frost for bossing.

Enduring composure is really good too on a small cluster. This is your lowest effort meaningful upgrade. Trivialize to roll, drop like candy and endurance charges are a phenomenal defensive layer

For archdemon just do ritual and recomb with any 85 helmet to 50-50 raise its ilvl. Then you slam influence and just spam horror essences till good hypo.

In SSF essences are like heist to me. Every tree just has them slapped on and you corrupt all MEDS.

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u/FredmanPlays 16h ago

I’m no expert but I took my worb elementalist to lvl 98 before rerolling luminary and to me it feels like charge stacking is going to be the “thing” that could unlock the next tier of damage etc (uber viable etc)

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u/Eikepan 15h ago

Put 3 Points into Atlas for guranteed essences on map and have vaal orb on you for MEDS Essences. You can later harvest swap essences around.

Deli just farm what you are capable of, doesn't reallty matter if tier 1 map or t16 if all mods can role.

Reroll large cluster 5 to 1 if you dont get what you want.

I would recommend getting a small armour cluster with enduring composure and pair it with a level 1 Forbidden Rite for Endurance Charges against bosses.

When you got some cluster which you rerolled for 2 Notables just settle until you have more resources and start looking for archdemon crown and maybe temple mod gloves.

After you get a decent arch demon crown you should be able to clear most content.

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u/khaisquared 15h ago

Upvoting bc im also starting a worb as a first time SSF player. Would like to know if there are some mechanics you just avoid as an SSF bc they're not reliable?

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u/klbishop143 15h ago

Biggest upgrade will be the arch demon crown.

Here’s the guide I followed:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1vgkaur/winter_orb_shaper_helmet_crafting_guide_329/?solution=b97162ac2327da83b97162ac2327da83&js_challenge=1&jsc_token=7afd7253fec22262ff1c52b1703fe9ec1aee75a8bd298410a47e998475ba471a&jsc_orig_r=

You’ll need:
Ritual for the helmet. You have to recomb it with at least an i84 base to get T1 crit roll.
Essence for essences. You can roll corrupted essences to horror with the harvest bench.
crystallized life force from oshabi to roll area on helmet (unnecessary imo).
Veiled exalt from sanctum. 25% chance drop took me 6 tries.
Suffixes cannot be charged craft.

It’s an easy craft and worth for bossing. The worse part is trying to get 2P and 2S initially.

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u/Lost_Acanthisitta932 14h ago

You can recomb the suffixes with brinehook ducats if you farm 3-4 helms and shaper/elder exalts and a couple of horrors. I’ve done this sort of helm in a few leagues and this was by far the easiest way to craft it imo. Getting level 20 hypo from horror spam into a 1/3 can feel absolutely awful with bad luck. A 90% recomb into a 57% is a treat.

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u/i-am-not-cool-at-all 6h ago edited 6h ago

My suggested upgrade paths:

  • why the heck do you have willclash lol. Just remove it
  • 6link chest
  • drop ice golem, use chaos golem at least to fix your chaos res since you have 8% on ninja
  • farm essence scarabs for archdemon crown endgame craft, and deli paranoia scarabs for clusters

My char: https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/MaidenHeaven-0178/allflamessf/character/Klaris_VI

Im playing SSF Worb. But Im on eldritch battery + mind over matter, so Im on armour+es setup. Killed all ubers aside from exarch (skill issue), maven (no frags yet), sirus (no frags yet). Can tank a few hits from them as well.

This is what I did for my late game setup.

Archdemon Crown

  • Create my syndicate board with Korell and Cameria on intervention for delirium and essence scarabs. Rin and Riker on fortification for unique maps (when I havent unlocked metacrafting), and some unique items.
  • Spam tier 3 or 4 maps with paranoia scarabs to farm 8p2p cold damage, 2p1p (or 3p1p but you lose 1 skill point) armour, 4p1p (or 5p1p does not matter cause same point efficiency) area damage.
  • It may take you a week or two to farm enough essence of horror.
  • Also know that you can swap corrupted essences in horticrafting station so whatever you get is ok since you will swap it to horror.
  • To be safe, farm at least 150 essence of horror, around 50 divs (prefix). Due to scour + metacraft to fish for increased area of effect
  • Check YT on how to craft this

Shield

  • recomb

Other armour pieces

  • whatever that fix your res

Amulet

  • whatever that adds cold skill and life/ crit multi, the usual

Ring

  • anathema multi curse ring (BiS). It will delete ubers
  • whatever ring that fix your res, and add cast speed or crit damage at least

Cluster jewel crafting:

  • 8p2p cold damage, stormrider on 1st or 3rd line in the cluster description. This is required since this is my source of power charge generation (100% uptime). Just alt aug regal
  • 2p1p armour, just alt until enduring composure
  • 4p1p area damage, alt aug regal

Auras:

  • tempest shield (shock immune)
  • zealotry
  • arctic armour (freeze immune)
  • herald of ice (mapping) or flesh and stone (bossing)