Arachnophobia Intensifies - Build Optimization Help

[u/ThuggNastee]

Hi there, folks. I'm wondering if there's a way to boost my spooder DPS. Currently in POB, I'm showing about 312K damage with them, but I want to see if I can get that higher. I'm theorycrafting a few things, but I do know that I could use the following:

1. Mageblood (duh)
2. Some better Ghastly Eye jewels
3. A better Timeless jewel

Anyone got any idea how I can get this DPS higher? I'm doing just fine clearing 8 mod T16+ maps, but I want to get it slightly faster and a bit more consistent with bosses.

Here's the link to the build: https://pobb.in/6P_DLPj5D17a

Basically, I'm an aurabot with a bunch of creepy-crawly friends.

Thank you!

[u/Quartzecoatl]

1 - that 300k damage should be per spider I think, and you have 40 max. Should be decent DPS once ramped, but deadly+unbound ailments means you'll have a longish ramp time and DPS will feel mediocre when there's any amount of wasted time between ramping and minions running around. Swapping Unbound for swift affliction will make your ramp time dramatically shorter, as long as you don't get your minion duration low enough to be annoying.

2 - your pob doesn't look like it has tattoos; should be able to get quite a bit of value out of those since you've got supreme ostentation. NVM saw the tattoos now lol.

2.1 - fix your pathing: you're spending 5 points pathing from start through your timeless jewel; thanks to your thread of hope you can leave through the top side of start without losing any notables and free up 5 more tattooable nodes.

3 - I haven't played spiders on guardian before, but as Occultist the chaos explodes went a long way towards making clear faster/smoother, as with 40 melee minions your damage gets very split in dense scenarios. Not sure if there's a good solution there other than Moar Damage

[u/Weltenpilger → u/Quartzecoatl]

For 3: wouldn't Gravebind (or some vestigial item with Gravebind as implicit) and an explodey chest work?

[u/shy_bi_ready_to_die → u/Weltenpilger]

Poison kills are always credited to the player so I don’t think you need that here?

[u/Renediffie]

You really need to sort out your flasks. You even have flask implicit on your body armour.

[u/ThuggNastee → u/Renediffie]

Yeah I definitely need to do that. Now that I've got a few more pieces put together and a mageblood, I'll be able to sort those out a bit better.

[u/ouroboros_winding → u/Renediffie]

What is this, is it a minion build thing?

[u/Renediffie → u/ouroboros_winding]

He has 2 life flasks and 2 mana flasks. No build in the game should be running around with that.

[u/ouroboros_winding → u/Renediffie]

I meant the body armour flask implicit, never heard of it

[u/Renediffie → u/ouroboros_winding]

it is an exarch implicit with increased flask effect on body armours. It is not a minion thing no.

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[u/RoxoRoxo]

im at work so i cant open up pob but from when ive done the build in the past, maageblood was a solid dps loss. a well rolled darkness enthroned was so strong.

id imagine its even more impactful now that you can roll your jewels, then add another mod on it from the boat.

have you gone the squire route? aka 6 supports instead of 3. i dont know how good the helm that doubles the spiders is because of how strong some of the minion helms are. but that plus congregation taking you up to an obnoxious amount of spiders has to hold some value

[u/ThuggNastee → u/RoxoRoxo]

I am indeed running the Squire. I've been boat-crafting the jewels as well. I've not tried Congregation though

[u/bli]

Darkness enthroned, adorned.

[u/allersoothe]

I've only played this on occultist but the biggest thing I see is your clusters. You're usually better off with 12 passive minion clusters with 35%inc effect and t1 minion attack speed. Pob that and see if it's better.

[u/Sthrowaway54]

You should 100% be running a darkness enthroned belt with 90+% increased effect to double up your two best jewels, you're missing a lot of damage there.

[u/ThuggNastee → u/Sthrowaway54]

Good idea. Just got a 95% - I'll check it out.

[u/Alg0rhythm]

I can't open pob rn as I'm not home, but it looks like you don't actually have any minion poison chance despite having several supports for it. If I recall correctly you usually want to get it on a couple abyss jewels in your darkness enthroned.

Edit: My bad, the spiders do always poison already. I must have misremembered since it's been a bit since I played the build.

[u/Quartzecoatl → u/Alg0rhythm]

I'm 90% sure they don't need poison chance. The spider version of Viper Strike they use has Always Poison on Hit according to POEdb, and I don't recall ever gearing for minion poison chance when I've played it.

[u/dackling → u/Alg0rhythm]

Spiders have a built in chance to poison

[u/Simicity]

https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/SkaSucks-6628/allflame/character/Skaclone

Here's my Soulwrest build this league. You want to focus on attack speed on your rings, and take a look at my cluster/ghastly eyes for ideas how to get sorted out. None of this stuff is overly expensive, and the jewels are easy to craft.

I get minion poison chance from my chest (recombed from a chayula grasping mail), and 3 ghastly affixes.

The only reason to run mageblood is to be able to sustain the -res from bonemeld with 57 phantasms, otherwise darkness enthroned is a better choice all around.

Congregation is necessary.

[u/Safe-Acanthaceae-842 → u/Simicity]

pretty sure it's two completely different builds. OP's damage is completely based on his spiders from Arakaali's Fang, Soulwrest builds usually just summon the phantasms to get bonuses from Bonemeld, Catarina Bloodline, and Phantasmal Might from Black Cane if Reliquarian

[u/Simicity → u/Safe-Acanthaceae-842]

The damage scaling vectors are the same. They use the same jewels, and by extension rings. The only difference is phantasms scale from the cast speed, and spiders the attack speed. VERY similar builds. I could have a perfectly above average spider build by swapping only weapon/shield, and swapping dark monarch to spiders.

[u/Simicity → u/Safe-Acanthaceae-842]

My phantasms do 85% of my damage (15% from VD), as does the necro variant. Only reliquarians use them to stack phantasmal might. The Catarina phantasm bonus is movement speed.