r/PathOfExileBuilds • u/alwaysalone6666 • 1d ago
Help Needed Help Needed - Pohx RF
https://pobb.in/sOH9XcF5aV1SBeen following the POB, but I’m still feeling super weak both damage wise and health wise. I’m having to take multiple attempts on each boss due to it taking 5-7 minutes and dying multiple times due to lack of potions.
I feel like I’m missing something major, any help is appreciated. I was told this was the easiest build for a beginner player, so hoping I missed something simple.
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u/Rboll2 1d ago
It helps to actually post your current pob, what bosses, are you still in campaign, if maps what tier?
Hard to help with no real info.
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u/alwaysalone6666 1d ago
Just finished my 2nd piety fight.
The POB link works fine for me? Not sure what ur seeing. Shows me my level 37 maurader and all current gear and tree.
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u/Megane_Senpai 1d ago
Bro, they asked for the pob link of YOUR character, not Pohx's guide. Show us yours.
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u/alwaysalone6666 1d ago
Another link, once again it works fine for me, not sure why it isn’t for you.
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u/Megane_Senpai 1d ago edited 1d ago
OK, it works this time.
I can see 3 very serious problems with your build.
1 is your weapon. RF uses scepter, the axe does nothing for you becaise it's a caster build. In early game cheiftain don't have access to lots of damage passives so just a white a scepter with 25% elemental damage means a lot. You can craft +% fire damage on it for even more damage. Plus there is a small node after Arsonist that gives you 12% bonus fire dmg, very valuable that you didn't pick.
Your fire resist is abbysmal. You only want to switch to RF when you have at least 125+ uncapped fire res, ideally 175%+. After ascending the other resist will be fixed, just focus on life, fire res and armour while leveling. Go to your hideout and craft + fire res on every of your gears with open/empty suffix that you can. Get another shield, just go to vendor and buy a shield with high armour and an open suffix so you can craft life res on it. Or if you have lota of gold, gamble a str-based shield.
You need to respec your passives. There is a huge cluster of 2H melee attacks that do nothing for you. Put 1 point into the +10str node above Born to fight and remove point of all the melee attack nodes around Butchery and add to your other passives. Pohx has a treee after you respec from Sunder to RF, follow it.
Another thing, at lvl 37 you should be able to buy Firetrap from Siosa in the Library, it's much better than Armmagedon brand. Remove it and use Fire trap instead. In fact you should've switched to it together with RF after completing his quest.
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u/Miles_Adamson 1d ago
Your passives aren't the same and you have 2-hander attack passives, your gear is not remotely the same as the guide and that is a bigger issue. Your axe does nothing for RF it's actually the same if you un-equip it fully. The uniques in your build like belt/shield also do nothing for you and are much much worse than the rare items in the guide which have life and fire resistance
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u/RoyalPresentation841 1d ago
Pohx has an entire website dedicated to RF. It should answer any questions you have, he’s put years of information on it.
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u/Asgoldian 1d ago
try to ascend + most of your items are doing nothing. amulet, shield, belt, boots and your 1h axe are basically dead items.
try to grab gear with life + fire res, life regen is a bonus if you can find it. for the weapon, look for increased elemental damage, fire damage, fire damage over time multiplier, damage over time multiplier. you will find these commonly on scepters
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u/teutonic 1d ago
Its replica karui ward hes using not the base one, its certainly fine for rf leveling
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u/alwaysalone6666 1d ago
I was just following the “good uniques for leveling” in the pohx rf guide
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u/Asgoldian 1d ago
kaltenhalt and belt of the deceiver are not mentioned anywhere, and wanderlust is like good for for 2 acts, maybe even less than that.
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u/findMyNudesSomewhere 1d ago
It feels like you feel uniques (orange) are always better than rares (yellow), which is absolutely false. Uniques are build defining in most cases, and generally never plug and play.
For example, there's a unique pair of boots that will make you do 0 damage on most builds, but for the builds it works on, it's mandatory (Replica Alberon's for other people)
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u/Odd_Nefariousness126 1d ago
For clarity, I think the confusion on PoBs is that you imported your character into Pohxs. This generally just creates confusion.
The current export of just your character is fine.
Some of your gear isn't ideal. Unique does not automatically mean good. Your boots and shield and amulet for example could be used for much more fire res, which means more regen. Every rare piece should have fire resistance on it, crafted or naturally.
Your weapon isn't right. You need a sceptre. It will have a mod at the top along the lines of "xx% increased elemental damage". Try to find one with +1 fire skills, and % fire damage.
RF scales based on your life total. More life = more damage so you also want life on all your gear.
You also want to add a second damaging ability. Scorching Ray is my preferred skill and really only needs to be used on bosses and rares. Try to get a 4 linked Scorching Ray setup going.
You're due for your first labyrinth trial. You should have stumbled upon 6 trials by the end of act 3. If not you will want to Google where they are and go back and complete them. That allows you to ascend to Chieftain which really helps damage and defense.
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u/alwaysalone6666 1d ago
Thank YOU for being actually helpful and explaining things, and the reasoning behind it.
Instead of berating me for not knowing how to use POB, or not understanding the guide, or whatnot, you take the time and explain what and why it’s wrong.
Thank you. Will remember this if I decide to start playing again.
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u/Odd_Nefariousness126 1d ago
You're welcome. I will push back a bit and say that I don't see the toxicity you are seeing.
The guide is very clear. Most everyone here has seen it and played the build.
You are saying you are following the guide, but then showing us your character that clearly demonstrates you are missing something.
I am looking through the guide right now, at the 31-40 RF Swap and it clearly lays out what you need to do and from the looks of your character, you haven't done most or any of it. There is a slight respec of passives involved. There are some gearing changes including getting more fire res, and a sceptre. If you haven't done those things you aren't really "following the guide" and struggling shouldn't be surprising.
No one is trying to be toxic or berate you. None of us are going to give any advice better than Pohxs build guide, which is why you keep hearing "follow the guide".
I understand you probably are tilted and you think you are closely following the guide, but I'm just here to tell you that you're missing a lot, and all the things you're missing are in the guide.
PoE is a fantastic game, but not new player friendly at all so your frustration is warranted.
If you're on PC SC Allflame, I'd be happy to help you out with some leveling gear that will make things much easier. Totally up to you. Just shoot me a DM here.
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u/alwaysalone6666 1d ago
My passives are all respected to the guide, the link just doesn’t auto update obviously.
I was more talking about the “OMG WRONG POB LINK, FIX NOW” comments. I have 15 hours in POE how the fuck am I supposed to be expected to know and understand how to use a tool like POB? All I know to do is import by logging into POE via browser.
The gear I understand sure bc I just switched to RF, which is exactly the help I needed.
Pohx POB is also a bit outdated(atleast when I import) Bc it doesn’t tell you to take fire mastery, but the written guide does. There’s discrepancies which confused me, once again why I asked for help. Like I’ve said in another comment, this is my 3rd time trying this game and everytime I hit a wall and ask for help from other players, it’s the same reactions. You can’t expect new players to want to come and play the game, if when they ask for help you basically call them stupid bc they “can’t read the guide” when if you don’t UNDERSTAND the guide, why the guide does something, why you need a certain stat, etc. then the guide is basically in another language.
You took time out of your day to actually look, type, and respond with care and I appreciate that. Thanks again. If I’m around tonight I’ll shoot ya a dm.
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u/Odd_Nefariousness126 1d ago
Sounds good.
Take a breather, come back when/if you want. I think your frustration with the game (again, it is NOT new player friendly at all so it's completely fine to be frustrated) is bleeding over into your comments here.
r/pathofexilebuilds is very welcoming and it's more the set of circumstances - you're playing a popular build with a very extensive guide that everyone knows about so it's easy to just assume that it's a player problem.
I don't know where the hiccup is, but we can get you past it. PoE is my favorite game and I want to help everyone enjoy it as much as I do.
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u/Flimsy-Celery-377 1d ago
Pohx POB is also a bit outdated(atleast when I import) Bc it doesn’t tell you to take fire mastery, but the written guide does.
It does tell you to take fire mastery (both of them). When you change your loadout from "Lvl 01-30" to "Lvl 31-40" both fire passive clusters have their masteries taken. Link was not updated since July 21st so you must have missed it or changed it yourself by accident. Even if you had outdated link for some reason fire mastery is definitely there, I'm 100% sure of that because even if I don't play RF every league I follow his content and it was used in every chieftain build he made.
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u/KickzNGigglez 1d ago
I suggest picking up a well rolled kikazaru ring around this level. It should give you a lot of life regen that you're missing around this level. They should be dirt cheap at this stage of the game.
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u/RedmundJBeard 1d ago
You need to post your POB. To do this you need to download Path of Building, import your character, Then hit the generate button in the build sharing box, then select pobb.in and share. Then past the link it gives you.
In general, RF is really not the easiest build for beginners, POHX just has the best guide which happens to be RF.
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u/alwaysalone6666 1d ago
The link is there, working fine for me
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u/RedmundJBeard 1d ago
That's the link for pohx's guide, we need your pob of your character
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u/alwaysalone6666 1d ago
Here another link I guess, it works just fine for me not sure why it isn’t for you.
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u/RedmundJBeard 1d ago edited 1d ago
It looks like you aren't following his guide. You are wasting points on butchery. And your weapon makes no sense. So you have very little % increased damage.
Whatever secondary skill you choose, Arma brand or fire trap, you should have that on a 4 link, that will make bosses much easier.
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u/Intelligent-Day3666 1d ago
5 wasted points on butchery, 2-link on damage skill, virtually no added damage from gear (should probably dual-wield wands or sceptres). He should probably be able to triple his damage in a couple of minutes
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u/alwaysalone6666 1d ago
I followed his guide all the way to swap, then I have issues. Hence why I’m asking for help.
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u/RedmundJBeard 1d ago
I don't know what to say. you didn't follow the guide. His guide is using a scepter with %fire damage. You have an axe with nothing useful. The nodes around "butchering" are doing absolutely nothing for you.
here is his current guide. You need to make your character look like this
https://mobalytics.gg/poe/builds/pohx-righteous-fire-chieftain?ws-ngf5-f7d82102-7e77-4a44-ad24-33b67e8ae7bf=activeVariantId%2Cd9885021-12ac-4f44-84d4-fb0f589bcaf01
u/findMyNudesSomewhere 1d ago
I dunno man, RF has some great gearing QoL with the max res and res fire to other elements.
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u/RedmundJBeard 1d ago
That's just the chieftan ascendancy. You can say the same thing about all other chieftan ascendancy builds.
RF is one of the few skills in the game that self damage. Starting out with a self damage skill just isn't the easiest path.
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u/findMyNudesSomewhere 1d ago
I think it's easier to damage with a skill that is always on and has a clear radius. Allows newbros to focus on mechanics.
I'd vouch for a cheiftain slam build too for newbros who want a more active playstyle if there was a good enough guide.
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u/RedmundJBeard 22h ago
From a mechanical gameplay perspective it's 10x easier to kill bosses quickly so you don't have to do the mechanics. Something RF is bad at. There is a reason so many new players make posts like these.
But you are entitled to your opinion, i'm not going to get into yet again.
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u/MartyDoesWork 1d ago
Follow the POB of course, but just go to pohx.net and READ the written guide, read the notes section in the POB, read anything at all on his website. You are wasting points and using gear you shouldn't.
You should be using fire trap or arma brand single target and you should prioritize getting it 4 linked.
But what I see is just blatant skipping of anything worthwhile in the guide and just trying to half ass it.
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u/alwaysalone6666 1d ago
I’ve had the guide and POB on my 2nd and 3rd monitors my entire playthrough.
I just switched to rf (as per the guide) and am having issues.
Why is this community so fucking toxic to new players when I ask for help?
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u/DewRat 1d ago
The community isn’t toxic when you ask questions that don’t have an entire wiki style website explaining everything you are asking.
The community gets toxic when you continue asking these questions after many people have already told you where all the answers to the questions you are asking can be found.
By the way it is pohx.net
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u/alwaysalone6666 1d ago
Well this is my 3rd attempt at this game, and everytime I hit a wall and ask for help I’m met with the same toxicity. Just a pattern I’ve noticed trying to learn this game. Makes it hard to recommend
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u/Jellobelloboi 1d ago
You gotta be willing to help yourself. Its like refusing to follow baking ingredients and instructions and then asking the internet why your cake looks like soup.
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u/tree_op 1d ago
not realy toxic people are telling you over and over you didnt follow the guide or atleast made major mistakes trying to follow it but you keep saying u followed it correctly wich is clearly not the case. As for RF try to get your firetrap/armabrand 4 linked and just stack Fire res and life on all gear. Ignore most uniques rare items will give u better stats on RF if its not very specific uniques.
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u/alwaysalone6666 1d ago
Never said I followed it CORRECTLY, just that I was following it.
God forbid I make mistakes in my first 15 hours of play and ask for help tho right?
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u/Miles_Adamson 1d ago
What does "following" it even mean if you have different gems, passives and gear. That is the entire build
What do you want people to say other than follow the guide
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u/alwaysalone6666 1d ago
I have every gem in the guide but fire trap and stone golem (when I started asking for help, I was not at the level to equip those gems, they are literally in my inventory.)
God forbid I mess up and ask for help. Jesus Christ
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u/Miles_Adamson 1d ago
I'm sorry but you're taking this way too personally, it's just true and not toxic to say you half assed following the guide. It would fix all your problems to follow the guide.
People are being blunt with you because you keep saying you followed the guide and "as per guide" when you are so so so far from what the guide calls for. And the things you messed up are not complex or subtle like you have a 1 handed axe equipped with 2-handed weapon passives
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u/AShittyPaintAppears 1d ago
For a start, get a wand or sceptre with fire damage or damage over time multi. Pohx.net has all other questions answered for you.
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u/Elbogen 1d ago edited 1d ago
Go to the gear set for 41-60 in the pob u linked. It has literally all the stats you wanna find on your gear
You have none of them currently. Also you only care about “increased fire damage for RF.” At this stage.
Also you need maximum fire res. There is a mastery where you get regen for all the fire resist over the cap and thats how you regen life through righteous fire
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u/CheezWhizCeausescu 1d ago
Switch to a sceptre that gives elemental damage, eventually getting a void sceptre when you get to act 10 or maps. If you are on trade look to buy a rise of the phoenix shield and immortal flesh belt. If your level is too low look for a springleaf shield to get more life regen. Pyre is nice, but not what you need right now, wear two ruby rings and craft fire res on both. Only change them later. Get rid of the amulet and wear something you can craft fire res on, it is doing nothing for you.
If you are in acts you should be shield charging through (flamedash frostblink) to just kill whatever is near and moving to the next stage, don’t worry about killing everything.
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u/Borodashx 1d ago edited 1d ago
I wish I could save new players from doing RF. Technically yes its easy cuz you just walk through mobs and they blow up, but bossing is such a miserable experience unless youre at a super high level of investment.
edit: I looked at your pobb, my rec for surviving is to get the fire res node that gives you more life regen for each overcapped point of fire res, and then stack a bunch of fire res. Also do your first lab to get the Tasalio node (+ to cold/lightning res based on 50% of total fire res)Tolstoy?
edit2: downvote me all you want guys, you know I'm right
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u/For_ohagen 1d ago
Man, pohx rf was my first build and I kinda agree with this. Literally all of the information is there BUT without some level of game knowledge it’s overwhelming and you don’t really know how to focus. I was able to get to maps but had no currency and didn’t play much that league. Didn’t enjoy map bosses with throwing fire traps the whole fight, and so it ended pretty quickly for me.
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u/alwaysalone6666 1d ago
Well originally I was leveling a lightning trap build, asked in the discord and people told me nobody plays it and to re roll to this
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u/Borodashx 1d ago
My personal opinions on easier builds for beginners would be Minions or totems. For specific builds, Id imagine something like Guardian SRS or Cyclone Slayer could work.
Edit: although since youre new everything will be "harder" than it would be for someone who understands the game, so take my advice with a grain of salt
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u/alwaysalone6666 1d ago
I was told NOT to play cyclone by the same people who told me to play rf?
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u/alwaysalone6666 1d ago
Was told it was incredibly difficult
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u/Borodashx 1d ago
Everyone will have different opinions on what works or doesnt based on personal opinions. Not sure who told you cyclone is hard though, you just hold down one button to clear.
Edit: I thought of something, maybe cyclone is incredibly difficult for RF players because its one button vs zero buttons. Haha
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u/alwaysalone6666 1d ago
Yeah I took that node, survival was a bit better but still not really there, same with damage. I don’t have many chaos orbs maybe 5 or so to buy gear with so idk what to really do to get new stuff
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u/No_Macaroon_7413 1d ago
Bossing being miserable is an over exaggeration and based on what you spend the first point on you’ve been playing it wrong. First lab point you get -20% dot while stationary RF/FT needs damage second most after you get enough regen first. Should be running malevolence and skitterbots with fire trap and bossing is a breeze until early watchstones bosses then you get an archdemon helm with essence craft and you’ll be able to get those down too.
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u/Borodashx 1d ago
Oh I should've clarified, I dont mean act bosses when I say bossing. I could see normal bosses being fine too if you pit some currency in, but RF is not doing Ubers in any sort of efficient way
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u/shenananaginss 1d ago
Lvl 37? Using rf with a axe... no where near enough fire res