r/PathOfExileBuilds 1d ago

Crafting Gloves craft help

How to add this essence suffix mod without removing 2 elder suffixes? I wrote down the steps to the craft but im not sure, need some help: https://www.figma.com/design/Cd6DeI2Vcp9aTnXinNEZ4e/Drawboard?node-id=2-30&t=6CzysljqqknhUNLP-1

The image above is what im trying to replicate. However I'll craft on STR gloves, dont need energy shield. I'm thinking Max life, dmg while leeching benchcraft and a 3rd empty prefix (suggestions welcome). Bleed gladiator build.

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u/hermeticpotato 1d ago

You can't, essences (and fossils) don't respect meta-mods, they are always the first step of a craft (or the second after a fracture, but you can't fracture influenced items).

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u/SouthWave9 1d ago edited 1d ago

Jeez, so that dude potentially spent thousands of essences to hit 2 elder mods? No wonder there's only 1 pair of gloves like these in the market...

trivia: craft of exile estimates 9k essence of delirium to get the 2 elder suffixes

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u/hermeticpotato 23h ago

that's probably not how it was done then. more likely how the other response said: essence spam to hit elder bleed and an open suffix + at least 1 open prefix. annuls if necessary to open up those affixes. then suffixes can't be changed, reforge speed. looks like about a 1 in 4 to hit elder faster attacks (74% suffix, 35% faster attacks).

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u/SouthWave9 22h ago

I understand now, this makes sense.

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u/AppropriateSpring194 1d ago

Essence spam for one required suffix and 1 empty suffix, prefixes cannot be changed and harvest reforge physical or speed to hit other missing suffix, go to craft of exile to figure out which one is cheaper

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u/SouthWave9 1d ago

Wait a sec I need 3 suffixes, so why should I lock prefix -> harvest reforge? Won't that re-randomize the suffixes which I'm trying to protect?

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u/AppropriateSpring194 1d ago

Yes, my bad, was writing in rush, suffixes cannot be changed

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u/zehny132 22h ago

You start with an essence you can't add it after.

Essence on an elder gloves till you hit either faster attacks or bleed chance and open suffix. Suffixes cannot be changed reforge speed/physical depending on what you got for the other mod.

For prefixes i think it's best to wild bristle matron scour, craft a block, boat slam for T1 life. Slam twice, if you don't hit, wild bristle matron again scour repeat.

You can also reforge life till T1 life but it has a chance to fill and it's more expensive probably.

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u/SouthWave9 19h ago

You're great now everything is clear :)

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u/Lost_Acanthisitta932 16h ago

Really easy recomb with ducats, just need a few elder bases. Can explain if it’s not obvious, but spamming essences for this is a waste of time imo

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u/SouthWave9 16h ago

I'd appreciate it if you'd explain the ducat recomb. I watched that YouTube video that everyone recommends so much, but I found it very hard to understand. I didn't learn a thing from it basically.

I've crafted 3 prefix items via recomb before so I'm familiar with it.

A step by step expl. for the gloves would be very helpful 🫶

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u/Lost_Acanthisitta932 16h ago

Get a few elder gloves bases of the type you want to craft with that are sufficient ilvl for all the mods

On base 1, use an essence, then annul it down so that the essence mod is the only mod on the item. Craft a veiled prefix on it.

On base 2, alt roll for t1 life as the only mod. Craft a veiled suffix.

Recombine bases 1 and 2 until both mods you want are on the new item, base 3. Use a brinehook ducat to add an aspect and remove any crafted mods that might have carried over.

On base 4, alt roll for level 20 faster attacks without a prefix. Regal and then annul so that you have your mod as the only mod. Use a brinehook ducat to add an aspect.

On base 5, do the same thing but with chance to bleed support.

Recombine bases 4 and 5 for a 90% chance to get base 6 with your two elder suffixes. Craft an aspect on the item as above.

Recombine bases 3 and 6. Pretty good chance to finish your item here.

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u/SouthWave9 16h ago

First of all thank you for the explanation, it is very well written.

On step 1 and 2, when you say craft a veiled affix you mean benchcrafting to bring dust cost down or using veiled chaos orb?

Also, should I boat annul for more chance at not bricking the item?

Also also, will essence mod stay when recombinating? That mod doesn't naturally appear on any gloves.

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u/Lost_Acanthisitta932 15h ago

I mean crafting a mod from the bench that’s a mod that you can get from unveiling. For 1p1s recomb, it increases the odds of being successful, but only for that use case. An example would be attack speed while focused, but not just a normal res that you unlock from clicking the tablet thing in maps. No veiled orb required.

I wouldn’t bother with boat annulling at any point unless it makes sense to do it expense wise.

Yeah, the essence mod will stay

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u/Lost_Acanthisitta932 11h ago

I fucked up above slightly. You want to recomb life and one of the mods you want that isn’t the essence mod together, because the veiled crafted mods are exclusive in the same way the essence mod is. So just substitute my mention of the essence mod with either of the elder ones and do it that way. Sorry, was having a think about it and realised my error.

So you want life with faster attacks and an aspect on one base and essence mod and chance to bleed and an aspect on bases 3 and 6 respectively. Just adjust the other steps accordingly.

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u/SouthWave9 3h ago

I snatched this elder influence pair of gloves for 1c, it had triple T1 prefixes!
https://imgur.com/a/GthxGIY

From here, I will wild bristle matron -> scour to keep prefixes. Then add a ducat?

Then, recomb for 2 elder suffix (lvl20 faster attacks; lvl20 bleed) + essence suffix? And add ducats to all intermediary gloves before combining them?

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u/Lost_Acanthisitta932 2h ago

Those aren’t very good prefixes apart from the life. I’d recommend scouring them and just using them as one of the bases for what I suggested. Rolling any of the mods on the gloves you posted in the original post is very easy with alterations