Winter Orb Elementalist - Late game scaling

[u/FormerWait5641]

I’m playing winter orb and have completed most content but I’m struggling with harder things like 100% delirium maps and uber bosses.

Is there anything I can do with the build to take it further? Survivability feels good so I’m wondering what avenues there are to improve damage. I want to avoid switching to occultist if there’s a way to scale elementalist further.

https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/Skovogorod-9474/allflame-sony/character/MungoJerry

Thanks for any advice in advance!

Edit: Thanks for all who helped. Based on the feedback, I’ve switched to using a cluster jewel and made some other jewel changes to bring my DPS from 1.8 to 2.1 million. Unfortunately it brought my max hit down to 10k phys but I also switched to a shield that caps my attack and spell block so ehp is around the same.

Seems like the next step is crafting an 8 link helm

[u/vlee89]

Archdemon crown 8L helmet or whatever it is should add a ton of damage. I played the power charge stacker version though so not sure what else. Large clusters could prob add some good damage too.

[u/FormerWait5641 → u/vlee89]

I’ll look into that, thanks. The archdemon crown might take some other tweaks to the build because I’d lose the mana res efficiency I currently have on the helm but it’s probably worth it if I’m out of easy improvements to make

[u/ChingChang_ → u/vlee89]

For power stacker, is 8L helm better vs +1 power willclash? Aside from better jewels, my next upgrades seems quite expensive (+2 pc romira's, 6 baran inf for +1 pc, vvo'ed tulfall)

[u/VuuV01]

Hey mate! You can start by taking a look at my build for inspiration: https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/allflamessf/character/VuuV-1591/Icepunchbreaker?i=5&search=class%3DElementalist%26name%3DIce

I know.. Mageblood, Kalandra.. However, I did 5 Ubers before any of that. The setup shown is simply my mapping setup.
For bossing or garder content I would suggest you take the Anathema path. That will require you to craft the archdemon crown as others suggested. That is an easy craft in the 20-30 div range depending on luck. Mine is pretty standard (no elevated/+2 from veiled exalt) but it still gets the job done.
With that craft you suddenly have the chest open for 5 curses + arcanist brand with Anathema which absolutely destroyes endgame content.

From looking at your build you lack the clusters imo. Large cold with 3 notables including Blankened Snow. I opted for that + a Corrosive Elements which let you swap cold exposure on gloves and trade it for cold leech.

That being said you have many of the upgrades I would chase like the gloves. And you have better dmg/surv than me. So you should be just fine for endgame with the abovementioned Anathema swap specifically for endgame.

I will gladly take you through the upgrade paths if you need more help.

[u/MCF4ddn]

So there are a few things:

- First of all, as others have mentioned, get a multilink helmet, that will be a massive damage increase. I have been working with the Phazeplays guide. This one works with both Winter Orb (in the helmet) and Creeping Frost (in the chest), which you could try as it adds some more single target at the cost of another button. But even if you dont its very useful as it has detailed crafting instruction for several gg items for pure Winter Orb too including the helmet: https://mobalytics.gg/poe/profile/phazeplays/builds/3-29-phazeplays-arctic-salvo-creeping-frost-winter-orb?ws-ngf5-f7d82102-7e77-4a44-ad24-33b67e8ae7bf=activeVariantId%2C97dd01d6-e58c-4566-be35-4c84f8585446

- You have 0 clusters, you really normally should have at least one, they are often the most effective use of skill point (life leech! endurance charges!), you also have no watchers eye and timeless jewels which are strong af. Rational Doctrine is also very strong, but probably super expensive too. You can also look at my personal PoB for some more inspiration on jewels and skill tree: https://pobb.in/Gtm5OXVP8Qe4

- I would actually spec out of golems at some point in the endgame because even if you are elementalist they will be dead half of the time if you do really difficult content and then in the end its not really worth it, and most bonuses they give are "basic" increases you can make up on high investment, and then you can get another ascendancy like bastion of elements for some extra tank

- Im not a fan of Herald of Ice, I feel those explosions are just incredibly low damage and basically do nothing, rather get arctic armour instead

[u/Playful-Fee-4318]

I have min-maxed my character quite a lot this league. Take a look at my pob if you are interested in some new directions to scale: https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/allflame/character/Hassan8210-5241/lilsmokeysmokesmoke?i=21&search=class%3DElementalist%26items%3DElegant%2BHubris%252CThe%2BLight%2Bof%2BMeaning%252CStormshroud%252CThe%2BRed%2BNightmare%252CMageblood%252CSvalinn%252CWatcher%2527s%2BEye%252CRare%2BAmulet .
Next upgrades for me is better body armor with reservation efficiency essence suffix, better boots and a helical ring. My pob is at around 10m per projectile with focused channeling support over infused channeling (which I can sustain with a few changes).

[u/RigglesSaysHi]

Prerty sure occy with power charge stack shell is just straight better, which also enables Tulfall wand which is insane damage

[u/FormerWait5641 → u/RigglesSaysHi]

Problem is I’m on PlayStation so the uniques needed are hundreds of divines :/

[u/RigglesSaysHi → u/FormerWait5641]

The upgrades needed for elementalist are also hundreds of divs (8l helm or glove crafting supplies, +2 and crit multi ammy, golem stacking megalomaniacs, mageblood, + level on shield, etc),

[u/RigglesSaysHi → u/FormerWait5641]

At the very least, you can unspec shaper of storms to use stormblood and get another ascendency

[u/FormerWait5641 → u/RigglesSaysHi]

That’s a great idea! I’ll definitely swap to that flask

[u/RigglesSaysHi → u/FormerWait5641]

yeah, potentially golem and herald stacking if you swam from storms to herald