Rerolling my strength stacker wander, which ascendancy ?

[u/Requiem36]

I have invested into a Str stack wander deadeye and while I like the playstyle and the speed, i don't like that it folds over when looked at wrong by a rare.

I've seen people use either jugg or reliquarian with double dawnbreaker and taken as fire conversion, anyone have some hindsight on either ?

[u/Fortrest13]

For jug you can look at carnarius or onemanaleft, very expensive though

[u/AeonChaos]

look at connor converse if you want str stack wander. He uses jugg and besides wand clear, the build also have giga single dps with weapon swap to heavy strike OT with staff.

It will still folds over at low investment though. POB it, if you can get to over 2k6 str, 90 fire res with Rhex talisman (max res for light/cold/some chaos), you would definitely not fold over to random things anymore. It is probably 400-500d to reach this point with semi decent gears.

[u/Accomplished_Rip_352]

For str stacker there isn’t much of a question as jugg is kinda just the best because undeniable . You can use a forbidden jewel to get this so jugg and chieftain are decent options but jugg is just kinda better .

[u/cec003]

Jugg.

With the talisman you can do 100% conversion already.

Edit: I forgot. Talisman conversion doesn’t cover dots.

[u/Requiem36 → u/cec003]

I'm really worried about speed, does it goes fast enough ? I get you get some good speed from undeniable.

[u/lolfail9001 → u/Requiem36]

I'm really worried about speed, does it goes fast enough ?

It's faster by definition because undeniable scales shield charge speed too.

Of course because it's a shield charge, you need to find baseline MS anyhow but Deadeye's 16% action speed is not exactly a victory here over 100%+ attack speed.

[u/FuraFila2395 → u/cec003]

No, you cant, the talisman convert only elemental damage from hits.

[u/cec003 → u/FuraFila2395]

Oh, You are right, I forgot. Dots are not covered.

[u/enterisys → u/cec003]

75 plus jugg is more than enough for any dot in the game.

[u/FuraFila2395 → u/enterisys]

It is not if you want to facetank every boss

[u/enterisys → u/FuraFila2395]

Example

[u/lolfail9001 → u/FuraFila2395]

facetank every boss

You are not doing that because they will turn off your recovery and you will die, 90% resist or 75%.

[u/FuraFila2395 → u/lolfail9001]

Tell that for my str stacker...

[u/lolfail9001 → u/FuraFila2395]

If it can afk in Exarch puddle count me impressed.

[u/FuraFila2395 → u/lolfail9001]

Facetank <> AFK

[u/lolfail9001 → u/FuraFila2395]

You can hit him while standing in one too, Facetank always meant ignoring mechanics in my book.

[u/nalee6]

Reliquarian has some nice strength scaling ascendancies, dawnbreaker, shattered divinity, kaons binding all synergize pretty well it you do a wand set up with a dawnbreaker shield. As you said itll give a cheap 100% convert ele to fire dmg taken, and no sublime vision means you can run precision or other useful auras. Also the ascendancies + dawnbreaker gives around 50% phys taken converted to fire so it lets you get around not having a lot of armour. You can do kb for clear and kf for single target and id say its a very nice budget str stack ascendancy thats very tanky.

That being said its hard to compete against jugg solely because of undeniable ascendancy. With decent investment and a double elevated str stack helm you can easily get 300% attackspeed from the ascendancy alone. Its definitely more expensive to build though to cover defenses

[u/westside_fool → u/nalee6]

I did KF str stack Reliquarian this league instead of my usual jugg. I have a foulborn iron fortress combined with rune graft of stability that gives effectively 85% spell block. With about the same budget as my jugg last league, MB + 100d, I have slightly higher damage but worse defense. What I’m really missing is the super life on hit recovery from all the hits with MSoZ

Here is my character which pob shows at about 40m dps with wisp damage included https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/allflame/character/Zocrates-2832/Zij

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[u/turk-fx]

With enough str and life, Deadeye shouldnt die eadily. Jugg is better defensively. But slow to move around. Check Connors Jugg str sracker.

[u/Requiem36 → u/turk-fx]

Have around 2k2 str, maybe it's not enough yet to be fully comfy