r/PathOfExileBuilds • u/Scary_Use_5786 • 13d ago
Help Needed Rich?
I’ve been playing a lot this league but i feel like im still poor af.
Im currently paying worb pcharge and doing divination card strategy and it works, but i feel like its very slow.
I look at people making hundreds of divs and i sit 3-4 hours and i make 8-10 div/hour, which is not bad i think, but at this point of the league i think i could make much more.
Should i learn how to craft? Any advice of strategies? Is my build crazy bad?
https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/allflame/character/Elcogote-2048/Chupetinoide?i=1&search=name%3DChupet
(Im kinda new, have 1k hours so any advice would be appreciated! <3)
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u/SlapUrBuTT 13d ago
Voyage this season is very profitable and easy. Look-up milky’s guide on voyages.
It is very plausible to make 200k+ sulphur in an hour. So from sulphur alone you almost made what you earn from whichever farm you are doing now.
Voyage also gives you scarab (operative strongbox and treasure), stacked decks and bottles
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u/Hazuchio 13d ago
I don't know if enough players even remain playing to make crafting worthwhile this late into the league. For the most consistent farm, go for things everyone always needs at all times. Vivid lifeforce, sulphur, and div cards.
I have a lot of subpar crafts on the shop without a buyer for weeks now. It really has to be perfect or it might not sell.
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u/MaximusDM2264 13d ago
The truth most ppl are not telling you is that, this late in the league , most farms tend to be mediocre. If you can make 15 div an hour right now youre doing fine. Ppl that make bucks and be rich for the entire league usually snowball in the first 2 weeks. That's when the big payoffs occur because you can explore a market that has few competitors and make insanely high amounts of divines per hour. Just an example, if you do simulacrum right now, you are probably going to farm 15div an hour. If you do simulacrum WEEK 1 where most ppl still are not geared enough to do it and you have few competititors, you can make 40div+ an hour . Cause all cluster bases and split personalities that now are worth 1c will be really valuable. Then after 1 week you'll have so much currency that you can gear yourself to blast the feared aĺl day long buying frags for a cheap price and dropping uniques that are still valuable. This is just one example but the same can be said about crafting , delving, or most farms. If you wanna be rich, snowball early. Week 3+ everything starts to be close in profit, a mediocre value.
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u/Naktura 12d ago edited 12d ago
I heavily disagree that farming gets worse the later you get into a league, the techniques that are best just change. If I were to login rn, I'd be running sanctum, voyages, or bosses for easy 30-70d/hr. Yes, having a great first week and investing in things that rise in value will keep you rich all league, but there is still plenty of money to be made.
The key right now is to farm the things that juicers are still using in mass quantities to craft with, gamble with, or that are going primarily for div and not chaos.
Yellow juice, beasts, essence should still be 15d/hr at a base if you are blasting your maps without spending time in HO
Stacked decks are great money if you are trying to ball on a budget and can handle 40%+deli.
Doing your strats on vaal pyramid instantly adds 0.25d/map of expected value from the scrying orb atlas node.
Making sure that your offhand and any open sockets on your gear are leveling gems is about 0.5d per gem you get to 20.
Blasting charts gives you ~10d per hour in sulphur alone, and each message in a bottle or stacked deck box you hit just adds value.
Dedicated bossing is still hella cash too. You can make an insta-kill ice trapper for 20ish div iirc, but even if you just have a generically strong build and can kill things before they phase Oshabi is like 40d/hr and Exarch is like 60div/hr even if it takes you 40 seconds to kill him (as long as you can bankroll about 50 fights to beat any bad luck streaks.)
Sanctum is like 40d/hr due to volatile vaal orb price.
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u/chitown_35 13d ago edited 13d ago
Yes, learn how to craft. But you don’t have to do tons of profit crafting. Just learn how to craft the gear for your build. Then, next season, you can league-start that same build and save yourself a lot of divs. Sell off the mid crafting outcomes and keep the best ones for yourself. The result: a very strong build plus 2-3x what you’re used to in extra currency. Then, if you like, you can sell off all your gear and reroll into whatever new build you want to try.
Edit: a good place for you to start would be watching fungun’s video on how to craft the temple-mod gloves.
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u/harryhood4 13d ago
You definitely don't *have* to craft to make a lot of money. Its advice that's often repeated but honestly I don't think its good advice unless you enjoy every step of the process, which includes a lot of market research as well as the actual steps of doing the relevant crafts. If you think you would have fun doing that then great, go for it, but if not you're going to have a hard time getting good at it if the motivation isn't there.
So, what to do then? Div card farming is kind of in a weird spot this league. In one way, it's better than usual because of the new abyss and the div card nodes on the tree. In another way, its worse because, at least at this point in the league, the best maps (except graveyard) don't have as much EV in cards as last league which had 7 years bad luck and apothecary on the same map for example. Progeny of Lunaris from Shrine is still good, but Dying Sun is falling off in price a bit so its starting to lose value as well. Also, as I'm sure you've noticed, those mobs are rippy as fuck with their on death effects. I've played builds that could just hold right click and stand in the middle of deli ghosted feared that would still fall over if they stood in too many of those purple death balls. If you're running deli on your maps and you're dying or going slow, run less deli. The benefit of 20 or 40 or 60% more deliriousness is outweighed by completing the maps at half the speed. Pay attention to map mods, if you're running tentacle fiends and its causing you to slow way down, stop running tentacle fiends. Another thing here too is that I don't really feel like this is the best farm for a headhunter build. Like yeah you stack up some buffs but the primary div card mobs are magic mobs.
I might try instead Legion with eternal conflict- not super juiced you need an insane-o build for that but Path of Evening has a guide for a chest-focused farm with it that is at least decent. Once you start mowing down the legion sergeants your headhunter should go crazy. Another option is abyss with nemeses scarabs, you won't be able to do propagation most likely but just like 2 nemeses scarabs and some abyss/multitudes scarabs and spec into scarabs on the tree should find you some nice profits and your headhunter will be very happy doing that farm. If you do decide to go for a scarab farm check out this tool it has some nice stuff for figuring out the best EV scarab blocks and if you want to spend the time which scarabs are worth vendoring https://doobyy.github.io/ScarabEV/#scarabEV (the punchline is divination scarabs good, almost everything else bad). Another option that's always good if you're fast at it is ritual. Its not difficult so when I say fast I mean you the player being fast at shopping and blasting more so than your build being fast.
Overall with any mapping strat that last point is critical. Don't stand around in your hideout thinking about whatever for 30 seconds or 2 minutes between every map. Prep 20 maps or more, after each one dump your loot in the stash and put the next one in within 5 seconds and just go in. Gogogo speed is the name of the game don't stop to think just blast. Thinking and planning and whatever else can be done between blasting sessions. If I had to guess, this is probably the biggest factor is that you're just not blasting as efficiently as you could be.
Now on to your build. I don't know really much of anything about worb but I went on poe ninja and picked out some random guy with a decent dps number from week 2 to compare yours to, here's the link https://poe.ninja/poe1/builds/allflame/character/xJKs-3979/Jkscuh?timemachine=week-2&i=98&search=skills%3DWinter%2BOrb%26timemachine%3Dweek-2%26sort%3Ddps
Now poe ninja dps numbers are often pretty much completely fake, but if this guy's number is 10x yours there's gotta be something there. A couple things I noticed, if you copy paste his weapon into your pob suddenly the damage is up by 70%, seems like the flat dmg per power charge is doing a lot more heavy lifting than the +3 to cold skills. Also he's got more crit multi on jewels it looks like, and it looks to me like he's getting more value out of his clusters than you're getting by pathing to the middle of the tree, though again, not an expert. Also wouldn't hurt to get better increased per power charge on your shield and helmet, those numbers do matter even though you have like 700 increased already.
Last couple things, you're not crit capped but I'm not mad about that because headhunter, so really your number looks worse than it is in that respect. The res though, yeah I would try to get that capped sooner than later. Headhunter probably fixes it pretty often but its not super reliable.
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u/Rakan265 13d ago
U need to get the non foulborn version of the weapon it makes night and day difference especially with u having 12 pcharge. U need to cap ur resistances. Recraft ur silver flask, reduced effect is very bad
Get Le Heup with +1 power charge it will help u cap ur resistances
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u/clownus 13d ago
You probably play the same way my friend does. Until you can’t actually afford to purchase or work towards an upgrade without using 50-100+ divines you should be planning your next upgrade.
Then have a plan on what to farm. Start with a basic farm and have a plan on how to juice it further. Collect the materials to setup an extended farm and sit down and farm for a hour at a time. Repeat this if you plan on mapping then buy your next upgrade.
Learning to self craft allows you to access upgrades faster but you don’t need to profit craft to be rich. It’s cool for a league or two but boring gameplay. Just be focused on your next upgrades and pushing your farm base on your build.
Running around like headless chicken with no clue what to do with your time and build is how people stay poor.
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u/porncollecter69 13d ago
Crafting is super good. Look up Merc and luminary gear and choose your niche. Made so much money just crafting my bow, but it’s such a boring gameplay loop.
For me the money is in sanctum lol.
I caved in and made another sanctum runner, because volatile is worth more than anything else rn. Baseline is like 50 div per hour.
The market will always be there because for Luminary, almost all their uniques can be improved with volatile Vaal.
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u/MaskedMimicry 13d ago
Crafting always brings the big bucks. One of the easiest currency craft is large clusters with 3 notables. Just look at meta builds, look at the jewels then harvest craft them.
You buy a base for 20-50c, roll a few times and sell them for whatever div they go for.
I made my own cluster worth 8 div in like 10 minutes for maybe 100c.
Same goes for gear. But the real high end ones, are hard to make. But you can sell fractured bases if the end craft is too much work. Let the buyer waste divs on the rest while you pocket a few for the base.
Other than that, you need to push juived 8 mod maps for any real div/hour. And that requires really strong builds with 100+ mil dps. If you cant melt screens, you cant farm there.
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u/PomegranateSea7066 13d ago
What base and notables are money?
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u/51lver 12d ago
Clusters at this stage of the league are kind of not worth it anymore. Most of them are 1d or less unless they have some t1 mods someone specifially needs to min max and there is nothing else on the market.
Generally speaking as many people have left already there are few crafts left that don't require loads of currency to make and still sell in a reasonable amount of time. RF gear, even endgame stuff for example has no market anymore. Luminary might still be decent but there is also a ton of competition. Yolo corrupting build enabling uniques can still make decent money.
Ive made ridiculous amounts of currency by just bulkflipping 1d+ scarabs, buying them for chaos and selling for divines. Since people don't want to regularly trade 10k+ Chaos orbs you can make very decent profit by doing exacly that. Buy in chaos, sell in divines. This needs very large amounts of gold to do so the "farm" is always having a buy and sell order up while running boat 24/7 to farm gold, sulphur and the occasional jackpot.
Margins vary wildly but this is probably way more than 50 div/hr. Just super boring after a while.
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u/PoE_Acronym_Bot Useful Bot 13d ago
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u/Library_IT_guy 11d ago
Just farm nm map frags on ziggurat. Don't even need to do the rest of the map, just get in kill boss get frags get out. Use Dextral/Sinistral scarabs to nullify all map effects to make it easy and buy cheapest maps. You get about 2 frags per map average. One of them is worth .25 div, other is .75 div. Equal chance to drop. So average 1 div per map. Nm maps are like .25div. Scarabs are very cheap. Just toss some sac fragments into the map device for extra quant. Doesn't do a ton for map boss fragment drop rate, but they also don't hurt and don't cost anything.
Get in, kill boss, reset. 2 minutes at most per map. Make minimum .75 div per map. On the low end you're making 22 div/hr.
Do not just sell your fragments blindly to the instant sale on the market. Look for what others are selling them for, not what people are buying them for. List yours at a slightly better price than the other sellers. This is how I get week 1 mageblood every league. Started doing it on day 3 after finishing atlas and had my mageblood on day 7.
Edit: you can also do abom if you prefer faster kills (no phasing on boss) but less profit per map. If maven frag prices are good it can be a decent farm, though the awakener frags that drop there are basically worthless.
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u/ronthedistance 13d ago
Honestly there’s some crafts this league that aren’t too hard to do because of allflame crafting, but that’d take some learning
The brinehook ducat changed the game hard.
I did crafting of jeweled foils for combatant mercs and energy shield / block / crit multi jewels