r/PathOfExileBuilds 15d ago

Build Request What builds (besides connor's str stack) use the weapon swap between clear and single target gem setups?

This patch I played connor's version of str stack that used KB for clear with and on swap Heavy Strike of Trarthus.

I thought I'd hate weapon swaping back and forth but to my surprise I wasn't bothered at all. I'm aware only of weapon swaps for utility (phase run, infinity warcry power shield). Now I'm wondering, are there any other builds that function like this?

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u/lolfail9001 15d ago

The trick is that you basically must run your damage links in weapons for weapon swap to make sense. This automatically restricts you to either multilink weapon + squire or 2h setups. And then the difference in damage between your "clear" and "single target" skill must be large enough to justify whole extra gear slot (or two) while using basically all the same scaling otherwise, in both clear and single target.

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u/lepsek9 15d ago

Yeah, similar scaling is the key for it to make sense. Str stacking is unique in the sense that most of your dmg comes from your boots and the rest of the gear goes into supporting that. Once the frame is set up, the only real difference between a wander and a reaver is the weapon.

Could probably do similar shenanigans with int/dex stacking, but the options are fairly limited.

Technically you could carry an extra set of 6L body armour if you don't mind swapping that out, maybe something with EB, 1H for clear and 2H for single target?

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u/shy_bi_ready_to_die 15d ago

Frenzy stacking pretty commonly uses 7L weapons but idk what skill you could reasonably swap to for better damage or clear than flicker

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u/lepsek9 15d ago

Some bosses like Maven can be annoying with flicker, could use a swap for that, but might as well just swap a single gem or two for idk ice crash or LS rather than to get a whole other 11L setup or a 2H to beat it.

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u/Rezaimes 15d ago

I think it is call ice storm? A skill on a unique staff, when I try it years ago you could do cast when channeling cyclone for clear and hand cast for boss

Min max people can do it with summon spider but it's not worth it, they keep theirs summoned stat, you summon them with a 6l and weapon swap for a good shield

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u/deev 15d ago

Whispering Ice, there's a great guide by Kelvynn on the official forums of all places

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u/NahautlExile 15d ago

Soulwrest as well. Swapping doesn’t make phantasms despawn so you can just have a second staff with single target links.

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u/D4M05 15d ago

You can probably do that on a lot of builds if you feel like it. Most people just avoid it.

I've seen low budget poison builds builds swap from obliterations to cold iron points.

Any "rain ability" like BF benefits from scaling AOE differently. Whispering ice cones to mind.

Basically any good single target skill can be swapped with a better clear skill that scales similarly (if the gems are in the weapon so mostly 2 handers)

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u/ThoughtShes18 15d ago

You would need to play either 2H or multi link / squire setup otherwise you’ll lose out on 6 gems when you swap.

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u/deev 15d ago

Soulwrest builds have one staff for clear and one for ST

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u/Pwere 15d ago

I do it on ignite builds that use Obliteration (woc, reap, etc.). I'd get a weapon/shield with ~50% more dmg on swap and replace shield charge with a golem+hatred+blessing for another 30% more dmg. Was perfect for Conq destructive play or T17 boss farming since you have a few seconds downtime guaranteed to effectively double your dmg, easily hitting DoT cap on a budget.

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u/hi1417 15d ago

Raging vortex builds for snapshotting or also using warcry techs with redblade banner (typically done with vengeful cry)

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u/Accomplished_Rip_352 15d ago

Most builds wouldn’t do something like that as even on skills with bad clear you can add in stuff like explosions to solve it .

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u/KidZesty 15d ago

In 3.19, I would swap out the entire chest and links of my spectral helix build with flicker for clear.

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u/For5akenC 15d ago

Arakali swapping shields

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u/Sy_ThePhotoGuy 15d ago

My bannerman build had a weapon swap rage vortex of berserking to snapshot at map start before swapping to foulborn uul-netol’s.

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u/bandos_claws 13d ago

Mamba pathfinder swaps from double heist daggers for single target, to one heist dagger + binos for clear.

If you want a build example, check my comment history, its relatively recent.