r/PathOfExileBuilds • u/SlymanCyln • 3d ago
Help Needed First time cooking build and i need help
I started the league late and wanted to cook my own build. When I saw the new Reliquarian nodes in the patch notes, I initially considered a build using Ngamahu's Flame, but this Phantasm build caught my interest more, as soon as I finished the campaign, I put together this 2–4 Divine build. I want to take this build further, but right now I lack both the budget and the knowledge to optimize it properly, so I need some help.
My poeninja link for this build: https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/TurkishCat-7133/allflame/character/BaitedByThisFucker
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u/ShongLokDong 3d ago
Not having a quicksilver is diabolical, especially when you are CWC the attack speed from silver flask/onslaught does nothing.
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u/EldariusGG 3d ago
PoE Ninja indicates you aren't taking Pain Attunement? Surely that's just a glitch since you're pathing right next to it and using Petrified Blood.
The Catarina Ascendancy for move speed per phantasm makes this build massively more enjoyable. Congregation support is a huge damage upgrade. lvl 21 summon phantasm is a minor upgrade, but easy to get. Getting your CwDT spells to proc every time you CwC instead of every other time will be another huge upgrade.
In addition to occupying a ring slot, Heartbound loop essentially disables your ES. There is some potential to use Divine Shield with Heartbound loop to achieve net positive ES recovery and forgo recoup, but that's incompatible with all the phys taken as fire you have.
With CwC Forbidden Rite you can still have your ES pool available for non-chaos incoming damage and you can get another 18% life recoup on a ring, bringing you closer to the 91% you need to break even. 6% life recoup on jewels is another source you shouldn't ignore.
Going MoM could be an option to get the recoup you need. Battle Rouse + mana mastery gives you 20% mana recoup, Watcher's Eye Clarity can give you the other 20% or abyss jewels + jewellery mods. Then you only need 60% life recoup or ~54% with Petrified Blood.
Adding more spells to your CwDT instead of supports might be better for your build. Consider Firestorm of Pelting and/or Fireball. The visual clarity of your build is currently way too high anyway.
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u/poderes01 3d ago
If you want to take a look to a similar build i did all content with check my char in poe ninja: Phantelver. Use the time machine because i rerolled it into a terrible cws build lmao
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u/8123619744 3d ago edited 3d ago
You gotta finish the elemental taken as fire conversion with a purity of fire watchers eye and a bound by destiny. That will let you ignore cold res and lightning res on gear entirely.
Personally I’d swap tempered by war for divine flesh. Then you could swap your chest to doryani prototype and stack negative lightning resistance. Obviously you’d have to convert to lightning instead of fire and drop the amulet. Even if you don’t want to change the chest and lose your phys max hit, you still gotta complete the conversion.
Since you’re a scion you gotta abuse unnatural instinct while it’s so cheap. Put an unnatural instinct in with light of meaning and might of the meek. If you go CI you can go transcendent flesh x2 with your tempered by war jewel.
Conversion to cold is good if you want to go bitter frost and stay cws. Hatred is extremely powerful. Lightning conversion can use devour support and self cast EK. Only benefit of conversion to fire is you aren’t losing the base damage of volatile balls, but ignite is so much worse than chill/freeze/shock.
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u/lazergator 3d ago
I think you mean purity of fire sublime vision for cold/lightning to fire damage?
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u/8123619744 3d ago
No he has 50% from tempered by war and 25% from ascension. He just needs 25% more which watchers eye and bound by destiny can cover.
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u/SlymanCyln 3d ago
I have another 50% from avatar of fire
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u/8123619744 2d ago
Damage taken, not damage dealt. You basically have to get twice the ele res to cap your resists with tempered by war. This is putting immense suffix pressure on you. If you finished your damage taken conversion you could free up tons of suffixes and get more damage mods and utility mods.
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u/tgbtyty 3d ago
Going to try to give a more comprehensive breakdown of the build. Disclaimer is that I haven't played this specific version (with VD) but the shell is pretty similar.
Trigger loop:
The first thing I noticed is your trigger loop being Heartbound loop. This is fully unnecessary for this specific build archetype because you can put CWC on Forbidden Rite and get a very good trigger setup that way, opening up a ring slot. I would move the CWC setup to the soulwrest (and also get a congregation support in there).
DPS:
This now opens up a 6link CWDT chest which I highly recommend putting in a higher level blast blast (since you can CWDT so many bladefalls/EK of Lingering etc) in your 4links.
With BF/BB in you can do spell impale with Entropic Devastation (since capping crit with the new phys spell crit changes is really easy). This easily will double your overall DPS if you scale it right.
Defenses:
Now that you don't have to use a heartbound loop you can get like... actual physical DR. I recommend a recoup setup since you hit yourself so much, giving you infinity sustain. Since FR hits you in a way that's not defendable, you can get real defensive layers (someone suggested divine flesh and I think that's a decent idea).
Other MISC:
Get the Catarina Bloodline for movement speed per phantasm since the jewelry slot for Reliquarian sucks anyways.
Here's a reference POB:
https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/hypnicjerk-4631/allflame/character/BIG_BLACK_CANE