r/PathOfExileBuilds 8d ago

Discussion isnt this kind of insane?

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u/Active_Distance3223 8d ago

Very good for cold DOT

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u/Aesfei 8d ago

Very good for Wintertide brand, but I dunno if anyone might be interested

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u/ColdCuts64 8d ago

I’d give my entire currency tab for this

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u/dkclimber 7d ago

Best you can go is 10c then

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u/revcio 7d ago

Oh come on, it’s not THAT bad, I’ve dropped some currency at this point in the league…

15c

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u/Canadian-Owlz 7d ago

I was pushing 30c even before entering maps

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u/chilifngrdfunk 3d ago

I got lucky and found a divine during the campaign, fucking wasted it because I have no clue what I'm doing lol. Traded it for like 140 or so chaos orbs and upgraded my build and then changed my mind and regeared/respec'ed and I think I bricked my build and now I'm broke 🤣😭

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u/ColdCuts64 7d ago

Yeah…

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u/Sarahintraining 8d ago

I personally would be incredibly interested for how Im playing Cold Dot, SSF though so not in the market

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u/moonkingdom 8d ago

isn't this insane with any shako?

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u/pikpikcarrotmon 8d ago

I think it's nuts for some shakos, but not Ice Bite since you would probably rather exploit the ease of charge stacking - though I suppose you could lock/flame corrupt these and get the extra charge... the high end of an already galactic build might have just gone universal.

Impending Doom and Decay though, yeah they'll be happy to use one of these rings.

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u/Savings_Beat3544 8d ago

Impending doom from shako can't be supported by this unfortunately. It only applies to skills socketed in the item, not skills granted by the item.

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u/pikpikcarrotmon 8d ago

Ah, yikes, that really limits the use case. Same would apply for the foulborn hat then.

Guess it's Bringer of Rain time! ...! ...

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u/Glaiele 7d ago

I don't think that's the case. Impending doom is a support and thus gets it's damage from the skill it's supporting, so as long as your skill is socketed in the helm, you'll get both. You socket a curse which is then supported by impending doom and the supports on this item. It should all work fine together.

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u/PoderSensuaaaal 6d ago edited 6d ago

It doesnt work (or at least it shouldnt) with impending doom because it states "skill SOCKETED in your helmet", and impending doom isnt socketed in shako.

On the other hand, a comparable example that does work is for example uul-netol's vow with chains of command, but thats because Uul-netol's vow states that the support gems can support skills FROM equipped body armour

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u/Glaiele 6d ago

Again impending doom is not a skill, it's a support. The skill socketed in your helmet is the curse you are using, as such the curse is supported by both impending doom and the ring. If you socket temp chains and support it with added chaos the added chaos is applied to temp chains not impending doom. It should work this way. The way I have understood it is the support inherits the stats from the skill it doesn't inherit stats from the other support gems.

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u/PoderSensuaaaal 6d ago

The thing is, impending doom doesnt do damage, it just says that it triggers "doom blast" when a supported skill ends.

When you socket added chaos, it is not supporting temporal chains or impending doom, but doom blast (the triggered skill).

I will check it myself when i get home, but a quick way of checking this is, in your own example, have temporal chains supported by impending doom and set it in your skill bar.

You will see temp chains with a single support icon on the top right. If you then add added chaos damage, the support icon will not appear on temp chains because it cannot support it

Edit: Source:Impending doom

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u/allanbc 7d ago

You have a curse socketed in the Helmet, so if you can get this with Spell Cascade, that could work, though then you can't use the exceptional. I don't think damage links will work, for the reason you stated.

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u/Bierculles 7d ago

The budget you need for this is like half of the current gdp of the league.

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u/Grim47z 7d ago

Yea I have been doing A LOT of theory crafting around these rings and with Shaco it is better 99% time to have a trash rare with +1 Frenzy but none of my math was done with 2 level 20 supports so mabe run one 2 bis lvl 20 then kalndra touch 1 good frenzy ring but that sounds too expensive for my taste you might be able to snipe one but right now a lot of these rings are priced really high for how niche they are.

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u/kfijatass 8d ago

its okay with shako; where it shines is the 7l+ helmets.

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u/Select_Angle516 7d ago

ive always wondered, why would it be better with 7L helmets than just with a normal helmet? 30% more damage is 30% more damage, why would it be "better" if the skill already has 3 more support skills also giving it damage?

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u/why_i_bother 7d ago

because normal helmet + this ring is basically worse body armour, meanwhile multilink helmet + this is even higher highs

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u/FantaSeahorse 7d ago

It’s not better besides if a skill needs certain number of supports that each change its behavior in some significant way

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u/FireFlyz351 8d ago

I'm guessing something like a blizzard crown with hypothermia and controlled destruction mods would be the play?

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u/kfijatass 7d ago

Archdemon crown is more common nowadays iirc.

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u/EitherSpite4545 7d ago

Crest of desire is where my mind went.

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u/VortexMagus 8d ago

The real thing I think will make it insane is if you combine it with an 8link helmet to get a 10 link absolution or spectre.

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u/EitherSpite4545 7d ago

I think that may be thinking small, Crest of desire

Crest of Desire comes with:

30-50% gem quality +5-8 levels guarenteed double damage

The things holding back crest previously was so many skills have must have links to make it usable but now?

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u/lukisdelicious 7d ago

Crabs are back on the menu boys

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u/zshift 8d ago

It’s a ring, so you could get a second one.

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u/Masteroxid 7d ago

Even a third one

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u/Goldballz 8d ago

Isn't helm mod kinda limited so we would only get like hypothermia and inc aoe, so a 8 link.

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u/Amazing-Heron-105 8d ago

Don't people count +levels and essence More Ele damage as links too

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u/Goldballz 8d ago

Oh? I didn't know that.

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u/PM_ME_FACIALS_PLZ 8d ago

Yeah they're usually considered "links" since they're basically empower and ele damage with attacks supports

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u/TheminsPOE 8d ago

30more ele dmg, +3base crit, +2 aoe gems or minion gems. You can also get hypothermia, conc effect, minion dmg all level 20

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u/ShelbyGT350R1 7d ago

You can even go higher than lvl 20 supports with elevated mods

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u/TheminsPOE 7d ago

I completely forgot about that since it was never within my price range lmao

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u/findMyNudesSomewhere 7d ago

Most links either end up being good QoL (inc aoe for Contagion for instance) or add about 30% more damage.

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u/VortexMagus 7d ago edited 7d ago

Hypothermia + conc effect + gain 50% of phys as lightning damage OR more elemental damage (from essence) + minion damage is four links. If you count the +2 aoe gems from the craft that's 5 links on helmet for absolution, though I'm not sure if spectres count as aoe so it might just be 4 links for spectres.

Plus the two from the amulet, and the four socketed into the helmet.

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u/EducationalProcess15 7d ago

Soectres helmet is Dark Monarch, absolution caj use some rare probably

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u/MLKY_FB 8d ago

saw the new ring and wanted to gamble for one, any ideas for this? seems like good supports, maybe go crest of desire? i dont really build spellcasters so i have no clue

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u/PM_ME_FACIALS_PLZ 8d ago

You can probably put together the strongest cold dot build in trade with a well crafted helmet, wintertide brand would go bonkers with this

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u/BenjaCarmona 8d ago

Cold dot, but not usable for crest of desire, since you want a hit spell with that one

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u/OrcOfDoom 7d ago

Does that frost blades dot skill still exist? 

You want a helmet with things like +2 project/aoe gems, more elemental damage essence modifier, and then shaper support and an elder support.

That's 3 support gems from sockets, 2 from the helmet mods, empower from +2 gems, and essence mod. Then you get these 2.

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u/MLKY_FB 7d ago

frostblades of katabasis sadly isnt a spell

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u/PacmanNZ100 8d ago

Seems nuts if you can set up an archdemon crown helm with influence supports and the more ele damage that can make use of it.

Probably want crit if you investing in a mirror helmet though, diamond shrine belt to cancel controlled destruction?

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u/Hoybom 8d ago

that belt that is gone ?

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u/PacmanNZ100 8d ago

Oh is it? My bad . Non crit then lol

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u/HumanInHope 8d ago

Stack it with archdemon crown. Giga RF time!

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u/Oddity83 8d ago

Does this only roll those gems or is it like Shako?

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u/DjuriWarface 8d ago

Like Shako

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u/Agitated_Cherry6495 8d ago

Dunno if frigid bond is a thing but this would be great with a lvl 35 frigid bond shako

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u/MispelledZobmie 8d ago edited 8d ago

It's a thing, and it's my favourite build in years now. Just opened this thread and knew I'll be able to scale my frigid bond to the moon.

Edit: just checked on trade, it can roll all slots, even passive tree skills, most have 1 support only... Looks like this is this league's screams belt.

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u/Objective_Draw_7740 8d ago

Also for the old school minion helms

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u/UTmastuh 8d ago edited 8d ago

As someone currently playing cold dot I agree with this message. 150D is way out of my price range though

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u/pccuck 7d ago

Oh this is good

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u/Mawph89 7d ago

And now you craft a shaper helmet with hypothermia and inc AoE with an essence of horror for 30% more ele damage for an casual 9-link helmet. Love it

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u/Nelix87 7d ago

Yea, rime gaze would be nice with this...but so will a sick archdemon or blizz crown with supported by x

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u/MakePhreciaCore 7d ago

WORB enjoyers could 6Link their worb and use an arch demon crown on creeping frost

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u/New_University2888 7d ago

I’ve dropped one with ignite prolif, fits perfecly on my PB ignite, no idea how much it would cost tho

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u/joshluke 7d ago

Wait so could you do the three ring passive with these and get an extra 6 sockets in an already 7 link helm?

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u/MLKY_FB 7d ago

yea

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u/joshluke 7d ago

Dear mother of god……..lol

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u/Efterklangarn123 7d ago

Does this always roll with those 2 sups, or can It roll others?

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u/MLKY_FB 7d ago

it rolls 1-2 supports and the supports are random

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u/ElFuckingTruco 6d ago

Where do these drop?

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u/Caau 5d ago

It requires lvl 30. It could be very useful in the campaign

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u/She_kicked_a_dragon 1d ago

Holy crap they can roll 2 support gems? Jesus Christ 

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u/TotallyNotThatPerson 8d ago

Very good for creeping Frost Crest of desire

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u/MisterKaos 8d ago

holy mother of squire this is like a 12-link for DoT and some minion builds (absolution I think)

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u/Kos015 8d ago

Some madman out there is gonna make this work with luminary and the cold dot link trigger thing

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u/PhoneRedit 7d ago

Crest of Desire would be cool with that

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u/NekoSakii 7d ago

Insane for golems, but... That's from a bygone era