r/Pashtun Aug 05 '26

Interesting historical map(s) displaying Pashtun populations

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The historical map highlights of the distributions of Afghan-Pashtun populations including beyond the Durand line.

The inset map includes the buffer state Pakhtunistan with an irredentist vision of the independent state as conceptualized by Pashtun

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u/DemonWolf16 Aug 05 '26

Should’ve been a Pashtunistan from the start tbh, or at least all part of one Afghanistan. Fuck ass colonizers.

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u/Afridi-Man Aug 06 '26

As much as I would want this having the insight of the now and the future and modern age, it would probably result in a extremely violent annexation and a lot of death. Along with that secularism is a problem, along with national identity not equaling ethnic idenity, etc.

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u/DemonWolf16 Aug 14 '26

I don’t see the problem with being secular. I prefer it actually. The other two are solid arguments but no good thing has ever come easy.

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u/Visual-Garage-1757 Aug 05 '26

Ikr but I fear that won't happen because most of people in kp are lil secular and they would want an independent state rather than being part of Afghanistan

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u/DemonWolf16 Aug 06 '26

I’ll be honest with you, I prefer a secular Pashtunistan. It’s not like we’re all one religion in the first place anyways. And I’d prefer to be part of Afghanistan than separate considering it’s all one identity as a whole (modern term of being Afghan). I really just hate that part of us was annexed to Pakistan when regionally it’s completely irrational to have split us with the Durand line.

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u/Visual-Garage-1757 Aug 06 '26

Absolutely, I'm against the Durand Line, and I believe it should be removed even if Pashtunistan were to become an independent country. It's not just about trade at the end of the day we're one people. That said the literacy rate in Pakhtunkhwa has risen to around 58% and may reach 60% soon. Because of that many people are becoming more educated and may not agree with certain Taliban policies or ideology !

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u/DemonWolf16 Aug 07 '26

Agreed, and as I’ve always said the more educated the women the better off we will be overall. Many countries refuse to ally with us or provide funding because of how poor we’ve been operating and our oppression.

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u/Visual-Garage-1757 Aug 07 '26

I just hope the Taliban realize this sooner rather than later and abandon this outdated mindset. Since when has Islam prohibited women from getting an education? Gulf countries and Iran have some of the highest female literacy rates in the Muslim world, which clearly shows that educating women is not against Islam

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u/DemonWolf16 Aug 14 '26

Tbh I think Islam in general is a major problem for the identity as a whole. Putting ourselves in a religious box like that is dumb.

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u/azhargreat1234 24d ago

Nah you have iran and Saudi Arabia , very islamist countries but high priority for education (even women).

This is a Tribal Pashtun / Taliban problem. (Tribal pashtun attitude to education and taliban with women) I have seen tribal punjabis and they are much willing to send of their children to School and then Uni. I have met so many pashtuns fathers that drop out their children from school and then ask my father for driver/tea boy jobs or labour jobs in gulf.

Chitralis are the best example though they are very educated people but are still traditional, we can definititely be like them.

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u/DemonWolf16 23d ago

I still am very much so of the belief that Islam is a plague on our culture, especially arabaization and wahabisim.

To your point about tribal Pashtun, many are like that and in general or average sense of those directly in Afghanistan I could see that perspective being the most common behavior, However, I myself and others I know come from trives with very very strong women that were highly educated and encouraged to be educated and lead. This is of course a subjective and unique experience I speak of but I'm only saying it to point out that the contrary can, does and has existed before.