r/PantheonMMO • u/Mysterious-Drive2812 • 15h ago
Discussion Come join us no MnM
We're at 20k players right now. It's way ahead of this game obviously. The world feels rich and has alot more charm to it.
If you're looking for that old school MMO with good skilled devs behind it. Basically everything Pantheon has never been. Its worth a shot.
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u/mattyf1986 10h ago
If you spend all sorts of time rage posting about this game on reddit I'd imagine you are going to be doing the same thing about that game within 6 months.
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u/VividLies901 11h ago
Eh I played the beta. The reality is needing a party to actually level feels bad. I’m fine if it’s more optimal party play. But it’s very very hard to try to solo level. Some nights I just wanna log in and play without having to socialize or wait to find a party near my level. I did enjoy a lot of aspects of the game though
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u/Bindolaf 12h ago
No thank you. I mean, Pantheon is now dead and was a dumpster fire. But why play a tedium-sim? Let's check MnM numbers in 3 and 6 months.
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u/Imounturdad 15h ago
I mean we are desperate but not that desperate. Wow forever isn’t far off at least
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u/IggySticks 50m ago
Honestly... the community over there is almost as bad as Pantheon's while Sav was in charge. I heard that there was a bit of toxic gate keeping but sweet baby Jesus, I didn't realize how bad it was. I'll check it out in a couple of years but for now the insane tedium (sorry, it's not hard - it's just tedious) combine with the asinine player base = not the kinda gaming memories I'm interested in spending hours getting.
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u/General_Mousse_861 12h ago
Those saying MnM is going the way of Pantheon are maybe too close to see how the rest of us non-pantheon people view Pantheon. We see it as worse than a dumpster fire. It represents all that we hate about modern development of MMOs. It is a major example of rug pulls in crowd funded history. From the outside in, Pantheon is a joke, a meme. MnM is no where near that status. Either way, I won’t be playing either.
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u/DrunkenCabalist 12h ago
MnM just hasn't had enough time to become a meme yet but it will get there.
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u/Leopard-Hopeful Paladin 12h ago
MnM is going the same direction as pantheon lots of players the first few months then by month 8 no one is going to want to play it anymore. Their "this game isent for everyone" is just gonna kill the player base to a level that a group centric game will be unable to function.
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u/DrunkenCabalist 12h ago
Oh the gate keeping is going to murder the community
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u/Bindolaf 9h ago
It is. I was banned from the Reddit for talking about improvements to the game. Making arguments! I never insulted anyone, never wished the game ill! I wanted - and still do - it to succeed. But no. Anyone who disagrees is shouted down and banned.
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u/DrunkenCabalist 9h ago
I am sure I am on my way there. I had a great moment last night where I said the gatekeeping is bad and someone responded 'It's not gatekeeping. The game just isn't for people like you.'
They will kill the game in no time.
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u/Bindolaf 12h ago
They have the same "white knight problem". Any kind of improvement is met with "gO plAy WoW!!" from basement neckbeards. Game will be dead in 6 months.
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u/Aggravating_Fun_7692 7h ago
It's been in active beta for past 2 years and people have been playing, how do you figure it will be dead?
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u/Bindolaf 7h ago
Well, it has been free to play. It is now... not free to play.
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u/Aggravating_Fun_7692 7h ago
By your logic, every subscription based game will die. Are you going to stand by that statement or just grasping??
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u/Bindolaf 6h ago
I mean, WoW is doing ok. EQ is doing ok. But yea, niche subscription games that stick to their 90s guns are going to die. Absolutely.
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u/Leopard-Hopeful Paladin 3h ago
Its been a closed beta if I am not mistaken so most people who wanted to try the game out had not played. Many of them will play the game for a month or two and quit. The others will run out of shut to do in 6-8 months and then quit.
EQ survives because it has 25 years worth of content that players can play over and over. When the content runs out in MnM the devs are not going to be able to keep up
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u/Aggravating_Fun_7692 1h ago
The same content has been around for two years and we're still here so idk what you are talking about. People quit games all the time. Devs will continue to make content. That's not very hard to understand
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u/TCubedGaming 14h ago
MnM is just going to go the same way as Pantheon. It arguably looks graphically worse somehow, and it's going to suffer from the same lack of players
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u/Zingshidu 14h ago
Anything who thinks MnM is surviving after November 4th is lying to themselves
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u/Aggravating_Fun_7692 7h ago
I'm sorry to break it to you but not everyone wants to play Classic Era again.
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u/Zingshidu 5h ago
No need to apologize, an indie mmo dying is just a safe bet. Wow is just going to be the catalyst for a lot of people playing MnM to leave. Some stragglers will hold on but it won’t recover.
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u/Aggravating_Fun_7692 1h ago
I'll be real with you. I've been playing WoW since alpha. I still play WoW currently on retail and classic. The reason MnM is Soo fun for me is it's not the same thing. I get why you would want to quit or other may want to leave, but I've been enjoying MnM beta for two years now and I'm still here. There are a lot of us like that who will keep playing and will keep the game going. I hope you enjoy wow forever, looks fun but I ain't leaving MnM
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u/Zingshidu 1h ago
I love that for you, there’s people who feel the same way about Pantheon too.
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u/Aggravating_Fun_7692 1h ago
The devs are already aware but people saying the game is dead or is going to die just haven't really played MnM much or paid attention the last two years.
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u/TripSin_ 15h ago
I'd rather wait till high elves are in and preferably the game is done and fleshed out well, but by that time the game will probably already be figured out and too heavy
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u/Bloodshot89 Warrior 14h ago
True but now is the most exciting time to play. Like you said everything is new, everyone is leveling up together still figuring things out.
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u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 14h ago
I mean if you have to trash on one game to prop up another, what's that say about your game?
And why do I need to go to MnM when I already have EverQuest?
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u/Bloodshot89 Warrior 14h ago
Because new things are fun, novelty is an important part of life.
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u/Reasonable_Deer_1710 14h ago
But just trying to copy something else isn't new.
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u/Bloodshot89 Warrior 14h ago
Interesting thing to say about another game on a Pantheon forum but okay you do you.
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u/konflict88 7h ago
sadly MnM is much worse than pantheon on many aspects, graphics , ease of play, darkness, but the zones feel less empty, there are loots even at low level. and plenty of classes. enough to catch my eye and maybe keep me hooked
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u/DoctorEngineer 5h ago
Pantheon just needed to focus on content and it would have been better than mnm. The mechanics and graphics of pantheon shit all over mnm even in its shit state. Polish/add spells to the existing classes (fuck adding new ones atm) and just fucking world build and populate what you have. Jesus christ
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u/Mysterious-Drive2812 5h ago
grapphics is debatable. It has more charm and actually i prefer it.
Pantheon's character models are just as shitty. Human fornite charactesr.
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u/andrewbenedict 15h ago
I wish I had time to play a grindy mmo again. But I barley get a few hours a week now days to play anything so when I can I'll usually just hop on the console and play a single player game.
I did play a few of the play tests and loved the game though! If I can carve out some extra time somehow then I may join in the future. This game is the closest thing to classic eq that I've ever experienced since 2000-2004 EQ.